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   <summary><![CDATA[The Committee deliberated upon the procedures for grant of building plan approvals and completion certificates including the role of the Delhi Urban Arts Commission therein. The consensus of the opinion was that the present procedures involving a multiplicity of authorities were resulting in considerable harassment and delays. The present procedures of scrutiny of building plans, issue of C & D forms and completion certificate is very cumbersome and involved delays at each stage due to site inspections and site reports. Further, since there was no single person specifically responsible for adherence to regulations at the approval or completion stage, owners with the connivance of building officials and unscrupulous architects, indulged in violations for financial advantage. Thus while honest owners are harassed, unscrupulous architects, indulged in violations for financial advantage. Thus while honest owners are harassed, unscrupulous ones get away with serious violations.
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The functioning of the Delhi Urban Arts Commission has also been inviting attention. While the architects complain about delays in DUAC, the DUAC has been complaining that buildings get constructed in contravention of its approvals. There has been a talk of giving inspecting powers to DUAC which would mean another agency involved in the approval process.
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      <![CDATA[The Committee deliberated upon the procedures for grant of building plan approvals and completion certificates including the role of the Delhi Urban Arts Commission therein. The consensus of the opinion was that the present procedures involving a multiplicity of authorities were resulting in considerable harassment and delays. The present procedures of scrutiny of building plans, issue of C & D forms and completion certificate is very cumbersome and involved delays at each stage due to site inspections and site reports. Further, since there was no single person specifically responsible for adherence to regulations at the approval or completion stage, owners with the connivance of building officials and unscrupulous architects, indulged in violations for financial advantage. Thus while honest owners are harassed, unscrupulous architects, indulged in violations for financial advantage. Thus while honest owners are harassed, unscrupulous ones get away with serious violations.<br />
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The functioning of the Delhi Urban Arts Commission has also been inviting attention. While the architects complain about delays in DUAC, the DUAC has been complaining that buildings get constructed in contravention of its approvals. There has been a talk of giving inspecting powers to DUAC which would mean another agency involved in the approval process.
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<p>Contents:</p>
<ol>
  <li><a href="#1">Introduction</a></li>
  <li> <a href="#2">Report on Rationalization of Procedures for Building Approvals and Completion Certificates</a></li>
  <li><a href="#3">Observations of the Chairman</a></li>
  <li><a href="#4">Minute of dissent of Shri S D Satpute, NDMC</a></li>
  <li><a href="#5">Annexure: Proforma for Planning Permission</a></li>
</ol>
<blockquote class="smallNoBorder_silver">
<h4><a name="1"></a>1. Introduction</h4>
<p>Lt. Governor, Delhi, Through Delhi Administration, Local Self
Government Department Order No.F.8/2/87-LSG/6729-45 dated 14th
October, 1987, constituted a Committee to review existing building
Regulations and suggest measures for their modifications,
rationalization and liberalization for better and quicker
construction activities. Before the Committee started its
deliberations; some members were added on it. The composition of the
Committee as finally constituted was a follows: 
</p>
<ol>
  <li> Shri S K Sharma, CMD, HUDCO Chairman</li>
  <li>Shri S Raghunathan, Secretary (AR), Delhi Admn. Member</li>
  <li>Shri B B Saxena, Managing Director, Delhi State Civil Supplies Corporation. Member</li>
  <li>Shri S C Gupta, Director (DC&amp;B), DDA Member</li>
  <li>Shri D D Mathur, Town Planner, MCD Member</li>
  <li>Shri S M Hasnain, Chief Engineer, MCD Member</li>
  <li>Shri B D Satpute, Chief Architect, NDMC Member</li>
  <li>Shri M N Ashish Ganju, Architect Member</li>
  <li>Prof T S Naraynaswamy, Head of Department, Building Engg. &amp; Management, SPA, New Delhi. Member</li>
  <li>Shri Rakesh Mehta, Deputy Secretary (Engg.), Member</li>
  <li>Shri Pradeep Singh, Special Secretary(LSG), Delhi Administration, Member Secretary</li>
</ol>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold;">Special Invitees</span></p>
<ol>
  <li>Shri J R Bhalla President, Council of Architecture, New Delhi.</li>
  <li>Shri A P Kanvinde, Architect</li>
  <li>Shri Jasbir Sachdeva ,Architect, Rep. of IIA, Northern Chapter.</li>
  <li>Shri Shashi Sehgal, Architect, Rep. of IIA, Northern Chapter.</li>
  <li>Shri Mohan Lal, Chairman, Guild of Practicing Architects.</li>
  <li>Shri J S Majithia, Secretary, DUAC.</li>
  <li>Shri H K Yadav, Chief Special Projects, HUDCO.</li>
  <li>Shri D D Madan. DUAC, New Delhi.</li>
  <li>Smt. J. Raghuraman, Director (Housing), DDA, New Delhi,</li>
  <li>Shri T.R. Takulia, Architect, New Delhi.</li>x
  <li>Shri Anoop Aggarwal, Chief Law, HUDCO.</li>
</ol>
<p>The Committee met a number of times and deliberated upon
various
issues pertaining to building approval procedures and regulations.
The Representatives of Indian Institute of Architects, and Guild of
Practicing Architects were requested to furnish the views of the
profession and the representatives of the city authorities were
requested to react to them. After deliberating upon the various
issues, the Committee felt that major changes in the procedures were
required for reducing delays, harassment and malpractices and
ensuring better adherence to regulations. The consensus of the
opinion was that by making the architect of the project accountable,
delays and harassment can be reduced and adherence to regulations
improved.</p>
<p>This Report referred to as Part 1, pertains to rationalization
of
procedures for building approvals and completion certificates. The
Committee has still to complete its deliberations on building
regulations. Report thereon will be submitted later.</p>
<p>The Committee would like to place on record its deep
appreciation
of the efforts being made by the Lt. Governor of Delhi to rationalize
the building control procedures and regulations for the benefit of
the citizens and the city of Delhi. As Chairman of the Committee, I
am grateful to the members of the Committee for their participation.
I would particularly like to thank Shri. S.C. Gupta, Director
(DC&amp;B), DDA but for whose valuable contribution, this report would not have
been possible.</p>
<p>&nbsp;S K Sharma,&nbsp;CMD HUDCO<br />
	New Delhi,&nbsp;May 1988&nbsp;</p>
</blockquote>
<h3 class="western" style="page-break-before: always;"><a name="2"></a>2. Report on Rationalization of Procedures for Building Approvals and Completion Certificates</h3>
<p>The Committee deliberated upon the procedures for grant of
building plan approvals and completion certificates including the
role of the Delhi Urban Arts Commission therein. The consensus of the
opinion was that the present procedures involving a multiplicity of
authorities were resulting in considerable harassment and delays. The
present procedures of scrutiny of building plans, issue of C &amp;
D
forms and completion certificate is very cumbersome and involved
delays at each stage due to site inspections and site reports.
Further, since there was no single person specifically responsible
for adherence to regulations at the approval or completion stage,
owners with the connivance of building officials and unscrupulous
architects, indulged in violations for financial advantage. Thus
while honest owners are harassed, unscrupulous architects, indulged
in violations for financial advantage. Thus while honest owners are
harassed, unscrupulous ones get away with serious violations.</p>
<p>The functioning of the Delhi Urban Arts Commission has also
been
inviting attention. While the architects complain about delays in
DUAC, the DUAC has been complaining that buildings get constructed in
contravention of its approvals. There has been a talk of giving
inspecting powers to DUAC which would mean another agency involved in
the approval process.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold;">Architects to be
made responsible</span> </p>
<p>The Indian Institute of Architects, Northern Chapter, and the
Guild of Practicing Architects proposed that the architect of the
project should be made accountable for adherence to the regulations
both at the planning and the completion stage. They contended that by
making the profession responsible, considerable discipline in regard
to adherence to building regulations and DUAC directives can be
brought about. If it is later found that the architect had violated
any of the byelaws or DUAC directives, apart from such action as the
city authorities may take against the project and the owner, they can
report against the architect to the Council of Architecture for
disciplinary action and cancellation of his registration.</p>
<p>The Committee felt that there was considerable force in the
above
argument. In most developed counties, the architects are fully
responsible for their buildings and face serious consequences
including legal action for professional malpractice, in case of
defaults. A view was expressed that the architects in India will not
be prepared to accept their responsibility. It was stated that a
similar scheme was introduced by DDA in 1978 but no architect came
forward to accept responsibility for his project.</p>
<p style="page-break-before: always;">The Committee felt
that the reforms attempted so far were partial
and no attempt was made to evolve a comprehensive management system
which would bring about discipline through accountability. The fact
that building regulations are being widely flouted and a majority of
buildings have been occupied without completion certificates goes to
show that while approvals can be a major source of harassment, owners
can, with some maneuvering, get away with all types of violations. If
a system is evolved whereby the architect of the project is made
accountable for adherence to regulations and later the city
authorities defect violations, it can not only haul up the owner but
also the architect whose professional standing would be in jeopardy.
If an architect deliberately flouts the regulations, other builders,
architects and enlightened citizens would, in all probability, report
against him to the authorities or in the press and he would be in
trouble. Thus making the architect accountable for adherence to
building regulations would eliminate&nbsp;harassment and delays
without in
any way effecting the right of the city authorities to subsequently
check violations and bring the offenders to book. It is true that
some architects may try to avoid such accountability. For this, a
management system needs to be evolved through which it may be
possible to enforce discipline in this regard. Whenever the architect
of the project refused to accept such responsibility, the owner would
be entitled to engage another architect.</p>
<p>Architects with at least 5 years practicing experience, as
verified from their Registration, would be conferred with powers of
approving building plans and issuing completion certificates under
The Delhi Municipal Corporation Act. These powers would be conferred
by way of declaring them as &ldquo;Municipal Officers&rdquo;
under section
491 of the DMC Act and delegating relevant function of the
Commissioner under Chapter XVI on building regulation to them.</p>
<p>To some up, the Committee was of the view that it was possible
to
evolve a management system making the architect project responsible
for adherence to building regulations for reducing delay and
malpractices and, at the same time, achieving greater adherence to
building regulation than at present. The Committee felt that there
was need to bring about such a reform with the least possible delay.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold;">Planning
permission</span> </p>
<p>The Committee felt that for laying down a satisfactory
procedure
for building approval, it was necessary to break the process to
building approval into two parts namely (I) planning permission and
(2) building approval. In the first instance the owner should be
required to apply to the city authority in a format given in Annexure
for planning permission with title documents and zoning regulations
which he intended to follow, prepared and attested by the architect.
The submission would be in textual from reiterating the regulations
and building byelaws which lacked clarity. The architect could, if he
so considered necessary furnish sketches supporting his
interpretation. The city authorities would verify the title
documents, scrutinize the interpretation of zoning regulation and
accord planning permission with in sixty days<a name="nc1"></a><a
 href="#n1">[1]</a> of submission of the
application for planning permission. This procedure will eliminate
the possibility of the owner incognizance with his architect, trying
to misinterpret the building regulations for undue gain. The
architect would also be able to design the project confidently
avoiding in fructuous work and would no be subjected to harassment
later for ministration of the zoning and building regulations.</p>
<p>If the architect is not satisfied with the interpretation of
the
zoning and building regulations or has some doubts which he wants
clarified, he can make an application accompanied by a fee of Rs. 500
seeking clarification from the Jury described in a subsequent
Section. This will be an extremely useful and important procedure
since varying interpretations of regulations are a source of great
harassment. The interpretation given by the Jury would virtually
become &ldquo;Case Law&rdquo; for later projects.</p>
<p>In the case of houses on individual&rsquo;s plots, forming
part of
approved scheme or layout plans where the building regulations have
been clearly laid down, planning permission would be optional.</p>
<p>In cases in which DUAC approval is required, the city
authorities
while giving planning approval will state that the project be
executed only after obtaining DUAC approval. Any modification,
suggested by the DUAC should be reported to the city authority who
had given the planning permission, which shall accord the revised
planning permission.</p>
<p style="font-weight: bold;">Building Approval</p>
<p>After the panning permission has been accorded, no further
building approval from the city authorities would be required and the
registered architect whose name has notified to the city authorities
would himself certify that the building had been designed in
accordance with the planning permission and applicable building
byelaws and that he assumed full responsibility for adherence to the
building regulations. The city authority would delegate its powers in
this behalf to the said architects under their respective Acts.
However,
before commencing construction, the architect shall submit alongwith
the fees two copies of the building plans with such certification to
the city authorities for purposes of their record and simultaneously
one copy to the lessor in case of leasehold property.</p>
<p>In the case of individual houses on plots in which planning
approval is not obtained the architect shall before commencing
construction, submit to the city authorities, a set of the building
drawings with a certificate that they were in accordance with the
building regulations and that he assumed full responsibility for the
project.</p>
<p>For housing plots forming part of an approved layout, the city
authorities should develop standard plans. No approval will be
required if houses are constructed according to the standard plans on
the plots allotted based on approved layout plans and the city
authority will be kept informed with full needed details by the
owner/architect before commencement of the construction.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold;">Action by City
Authority on Receipt of Building Plan</span> </p>
<p>On receipt of the building plans duly certified by the
architects
if the city authority finds that the plans are not in conformity with
the building regulations in any respect, it shall, within 45 days of
the receipt of the building plans, issue a notice to the architects
calling upon them to show cause why appropriate action may not be
taken against them. On receipt of such notice, the architects shall
within 15 days inform the city authority that they had modified the
plans accordingly or that no modifications were needed and that the
matter be referred to the Jury. In case no reply is received, the
city authority would be entitled to stop the construction. 
</p>
<p style="font-weight: bold;">Composition and Function of
Jury</p>
<p>If during construction or at any later time, as a result of
scrutiny suo moto or on a complaint, the city authority comes to the
conclusion that the building plans submitted by an architect were not
in accordance with the policy, titile of the land, zoing regulations
and building byelaws, they would call upon the architect to show
cause why action should not be taken against him. If the explanation
furnished by the architect is not found satisfactory, the city
authority may, if it considers the architect guilty of repeated
professional negligence, in its discretion, denotify the architect to
sanction plans or issue completion certificates on their behalf in
future, until his actions are judged by the Jury and the Council of
Architecture and he was found not guilty of any professional
negligence and shall at the same time, refer the matter to the Jury.
In case the architect is not found guilty by the Jury, the city
authority shall renotify his name. Nevertheless, with a view to
strengthening the confidence reposed in the architects, the jury may
appoint one or more groups, consisting of only architects to inspect
a minimum of 5 percent of buildings that are being constructed after
the new provisions come into existence, for a year or as deemed fit
by the jury, to ensure that there are no violations on any account on
the part of the architect.</p>
<p>The Jury shall be appointed by the Lt. Governor and may
consist of
five members. The members of the Jury should be experts in the field
of planning, zoning regulations/building byelaws, law and municipal
affairs and two architects of eminence taken out of a panel provided
by the Council of Architecture. The Jury shall have a right to
associate with if any other expert or seek advice or clarifications
as it may deem necessary. The Jury shall also elect from amongst them
a Chairman and Secretary of the Jury. The Jury shall hear complaints
from an owner, any individual and the architect concerning the
project, examine cases of professional negligence against an
architect, provide interpretations of building byelaws and zoning
regulations, advise the Lt. Governor on modifications and further
simplifications of building byelaws, zoning regulations etc,
recommend to the city authorities the condonation of deviations of
insignificant nature and advise/opine on a reference made by a city
authority.</p>
<p style="page-break-before: always;">The Jury shall meet
immediately upon receipt of any complaint
or
reference to is and shall give its finding and decision within a
period of one month from the date of entering upon a reference. The
Jury shall have a right to call upon the records and ask for
attendance of any concerned&nbsp;person. The Jury
shall follow
summary procedures but shall give adequate opportunities to the
concerned person including the architect before it decides on any
matter. It, however, shall be at a liberty to give ex-parte
findings/decisions in case the persons failed to appear before it.
Although the architect will be mainly responsible for the approval
given by him on behalf of the city authorities, the owner of the
building shall be equally responsible for any deviation or
irregularities in the implementation of the project. A statement of
all notices issued to architects even though they may later be
withdrawn, shall be put up before the Jury so that it may satisfy
itself that the architects are not being unnecessarily harassed. The
Jury shall also hear the architect concerned. Where an architect is
not found guilty the Jury shall send its findings/decision of the
Jury shall be conveyed to the Council of Architecture for taking
suitable action for the negligence of the architect in terms of the
provision of Architects Act, 1972. The findings of the Jury shall be
treated as establishment of a &lsquo;prime facie&rsquo; case
against the
architect and the Council of Architecture on receipt thereof shall
immediately proceed with the holding of the enquiry and imposing the
penalty in the event the architect is found guilty pursuant to the
provisions of the Architects Act.</p>
<p style="font-weight: bold;">DUAC Approval</p>
<p>It was noted that the Delhi Urban Art Commission had been
constituted to advise the Central Government in the matter of
preserving, developing and maintaining the aesthetic quality of urban
and environmental design within Delhi and to provide advice and
guidance to any local body in respect of any project of building
operations or engineering operations or any development proposal
which affects or is likely to affect the skyline or the aesthetic
quality of surroundings or any public amenity provided therein.
However, in practice DUAC had got involved in approval of individual
buildings neither including group housing and isolated buildings
which are nor serving the purpose for which it was constituted. The
main problem seems to be that the city authorities do not undertake
adequate urban form and urban design studies for all commercial,
institutional and group housing schemes get them duly approved by
DUAC to go into individual projects. The Committee strongly expressed
the view that the city authorities should undertake adequate urban
form and urban design studies and make allotments only after getting
them duly approved by DUAC.</p>
<p>In the earlier section, a system of obtaining planning
permission
has been proposed. After the planning permission is accorded, the
architect himself would be responsible for building approval. In
projects requiring DUAC approval, the architect shall submit the
building plans, models, etc complete in every respect, accompanied by
the planning permission clearly indicating and certify the compliance
of the master plan, zonal plan, prescribed land use and byelaws, etc
to DUAC directly under intimation of the city authority. As soon as
DUAC accords approval, the architect before commencing the
construction, shall submit with required fee two copies of the
building plans, duly approved by the Commission and certified to the
city authorities for the purpose of their record and simultaneously
one set of documents to the lessor in case of the leasehold
properties. The architect will thereafter be fully responsible for
adherence to building regulations and DUAC approvals.</p>
<p>The Committee further recommended that in respect of building
upto
four storeys it would suffice if a block model indicating massing,
apertures, hard areas and green with external finishing material is
submitted for DUAC approval, however, in the case of multistoreyed
buildings, detailed models with specifications of external treatment
would be required.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold;">Completion
Certificates</span> </p>
<p>The Committee strongly felt that just as the architect should
be
made responsible for building approval, he should be made responsible
for completion certificates. While applying for planning permission,
the owner would be required to indicate the name of the architect who
would be responsible for the project. If during the construction of
the building, the owner dispenses with the services of the architect
or the architect withdraws from the project, the architect would
be&nbsp;required to intimate
the local
authority by registered letter that he was no longer responsible for
the project whereupon the local authority would ask the owner to
appoint another architect and until then suspend all construction.
The owner would be permitted to go ahead with the project only if he
appointed an architect who was prepared to take full responsibility
for the project and intimated the name of such architect to the city
authority. 
</p>
<p>If it is later found that the architect had violated any of
the
byelaws or DUAC directives, he would apart from such action as the
city authorities may take, be referred to the Council of Architecture
for taking disciplinary action including canceling his registration
either directly or through a reference of the Jury. It is significant
to observe here that giving power of granting completion certificate
to the architect does away with unnecessary delay and harassment and
legitimizes the present practice of occupying building without
completion certificates without in any way affecting the right of the
city authorities to subsequently check violations and take the severe
action not only against the owner but also against the architect.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold;">Structural,
Electrical, Fire and Services Certification</span> </p>
<p>The present practice of building approval and completion
certificate hardly provide adequate safeguards for proper functioning
of a building. At the building approval stage, the city authorities
can hardly be expected to scrutinize the structural, electrical,
services design and intricacies of the fire planning in depth. The
architects and their associate electrical and fire engineers are the
people who can undertake proper fire planning and can be expected to
give fire clearance assuming full responsibility for it.</p>
<p>At the time of the completion of the building, again the city
authorities have no means of checking whether the structures and
electricals had been executed as per design and proper cement mix,
writing etc had been used. The structural and electrical consultants
of the owner are often required to give certificate of structural and
electrical safety but unless they are fully involved in the execution
of the project by the owner, they cannot legitimately give the
certificate. It is only the team of the architect and his associate
structural, electrical, fire and services engineers, made fully
responsible from the commencement to the completion of the project,
which can give a certificate for satisfactory performance of the
building. If deliberate violation by them is later detected, they can
be hauled up and if need be prosecuted. Thus the city authorities do
not in any way compromise their right to protect the city&rsquo;s
interest.</p>
<p>There is another aspect of fire safety which is important.
Even if
fire planning and execution have been properly done, if the equipment
is not properly maintained the building would not be safe. The fire
authorities main role should be to ensure that the owners properly
maintain the equipment as planned and provided for by the architects.
If the fire authorities concentrate in this area they will do well in
fire handling.</p>
<p>During construction, the owner is required to obtain clearance
in
Form C and Form D regarding satisfactory provision of services and
their links with main service lines. These clearances are the cause
of avoidable delay. The Committee is of the view that these should be
totally dispensed with. The completion certificate given by the
architect should be deemed to cover them and under the lease terms
where the plot is on leasehold basis the date of completion be taken
as the date of completion of the construction/building.</p>
<p>The fact of granting of the completion will be intimated by
the
architect to the city authority and the lessor in case of leased
properties with two copies of the completion plan with other required
documents, fee etc to the city authority and one set of documents to
the lessor.</p>
<p style="font-weight: bold;">Action by City Authority on
Receipt of Completion Certificate</p>
<p>The city authority may, within 45 days of the receipt of the
intimation of the issue of the completion certificate, inspect the
building and if any violations are found therein initiate action
against the owner and the architects. Any violations due to
subsequent modifications made by the owners, detected after 45 days,
may not be considered as the responsibility of the architects. The
architects shall, however, continue to be for basic planning and
safety issues.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold;">Protection to
professionals</span> </p>
<p>As mentioned earlier, architects who accept responsibility of
granting building approvals and completion certificates need
protection against malafide action. Clearly the architect cannot be
made responsible for any violations all the times done after grant of
completion certificate. However, he would be responsible for any
violations detected within 45 days after the completion certificate
is issued by him. The architect&rsquo;s responsibility would be in
regard
to construction standards and specifications namely setbacks,
heights, coverage, FAR, architectural control etc as per plan and
DUAC approval, structural stability, electrical and fire safety and
satisfactory performance of services even at any subsequent date. Any
other deviations after this period will be the sole responsibility of
the owner and the city authorities can haul him up at any time.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold;">Government
projects</span> </p>
<p>Whenever Government projects are handled by consulting
architects,
the procedure outlined above can be followed and the consulting
architects made fully responsible for building approvals and
completion certificates. Whenever Government projects are handled by
its own architect&rsquo;s, the concerned department would be
required to
intimate to the city authorities the name of one specific architect
who would be responsible for the project. The Government architect
thus nominated would be responsible for the building approval and
completion certificate. For giving the completion certificate, he
would obtain structural, electrical, fire and services certificates
from the civil and electrical engineers of the department/consultants
engaged, if any, add his own certificate regarding adherence to
building regulations and DUAC approvals and give the competition
certificates. If any violations of byelaws or DUAC guidelines are
detected at a later date, the designated Government architect would
have the professional negligence and the city authority shall be
entitled to refer the case directly to Council of Architecture for
initiating disciplinary proceeding leading to cancellation of
registration if found guilty. He would in regard to the project be
acting as a professional and would not be allowed to take the plea
that he resorted to the violations under instructions from his
superiors. If he finds any violations during the construction, it
will be his responsibility to report it to the city authorities
notwithstanding any directions from his superiors. He would, in this
context, exercise the independence enjoyed by the finance and the
accounts wings. This procedure can be applied to all public
authorities including DDA and the Municipal authorities themselves. </p>
<h3><a name="3"></a>3. Observations of the Chairman on the report and its implementation.</h3>
The building Regulations as they are today are an outgrowth 
from those prevailing in the olden days when the city planning was non
existent and small municipalities used to give small approvals. In
those days the concept of the city plans, zonal plans, urban design,
multistoreyed development, group housing, transportation and parking
were non existent. The primary objective was that a building
regulated by certain standards of set-backs and services would meet
the needs of the city. With the increasing awareness about planning,
various authorities have come up complicating the approval procedure.
No systematic effort has however been made to integrate and
rationalize the procedures. The result is that today no one today
knows what exactly the procedure is.
<p><span style="font-weight: bold;">Planning
Permission</span> 
</p>
<p>On the basis reform which has been suggested by the committee
in
this report is introduction of the concept of planning permission
prior to designing a building. At present no authority is prepared to
advice a land owner as to what and how exactly he can build. In fact,
city officials are afraid to advice anything in writing for fear that
their motives may be doubted at a later date. The land owners are
excepted to know the master plan provisions and other regulations,
plan the project and submit the complete building plans to the city
authorities and only then they can know what they had planned was not
permissible. While handling a few urban design projects for the
Ministry of Urban Development, HUDCO itself experienced this
difficulty. After it had spent nearly two years in developing the
various plans and obtaining approval of the Delhi Urban Arts
Commission, it was told that the scheme was not in conformity with
the planning regulations in certain respects. The plight of other
land owners can well be understood.</p>
<p>The committee in this Report recommends that accepts in the
case
of individual houses and small developments in certain circumstances,
the land owner should first obtain planning permission. While
applying for planning permission, the land owner assisted by his
architect, would iterate the planning and building regulations as he
understood them and indicate the manner in which he proposed to plan
the building in relation to set backs, heights, parking etc. If
necessary, he would also give some sketches though it would not be
necessary for him to make detailed building plans. The format in
which the planning permission would be sought has also been given in
the Report. The city authorities would scrutinize proposal and accord
planning permission after making such changes as they considered
appropriate. This is an extremely important reform and will bring
about considerable rationality in the procedures. I feel that
irrespective of what decision is taken on the other parts of the
Report, this reform should be brought about with the least possible
delay, if required by making amendments in the legislation.</p>
<p>Sometimes the interpretation given by the city authorities are
too
technical and rigid and do not allow the architects to envolve
creative urban forms. I feel that there should be a provision that in
case the owner and his architect were not satisfied with the building
permission, they could appeal to the Jury proposed later in the
Report.</p>
<p style="font-weight: bold;">Building Approval</p>
<p style="page-break-before: always;">Once planning
permission has been given, building approval
would
become a less important matter. Bound down by the planning
permission, the owner and the architect would find it extremely
difficult to design the building which would seriously violate the
planning permission. The Committee in this Report recommends that the
architect of the project should himself be authorized to accord
building approval with a certificate that the building had been
designed in accordance with the planning permission, assuming full
accountability for it. During discussions, reservations were
expressed by the representatives of MCD and NDMC in regard to the
wisdom of devolving such wide powers on
the
architects. The city officials have been living very close to the
problems and are aware of the difficulties and pit falls involved. It
is true that unscrupulous owners and architects have been conniving
and violating building regulations. The issue however is not of
devolving excessive authority on the architects but of making them
more responsible and accountable. A system definitely needs to be
evolved whereby an architect can be pinned down for his actions and
made accountable for them. An architect so empowered by the city
authorities, signing building plans in token of their being in
accordance with planning approval, would become totally accountable
for the plans. The city authorities would still have the right to
scrutinize the plan and if any violations were detected, the
architect would become answerable for them. It is thus more a case of
devolution of accountability than of authority.</p>
<p style="font-weight: bold;">Completion Certificate</p>
<p>The Committee recommends that the architect of the project
should
also be authorized to give completion certificates. This is also case
of devolution of accountability since the city authority would still
have the right to inspect the building and if any deviations or
violations are detected, take action against the owner as well as the
architect. It is the owner and not the architect who is primarily
interested in getting the completion certificate. The intention of
giving the architect the power to give completion certificate to make
him accountable for the entire construction including structural,
electrical, air-conditioning and fire safety. It is only the
architect fully in charge of project who can give such certificate,
while giving the certificate he would obtain necessary certificates
from his associate,structural,electrical, air-conditioning and fire
engineers. The present practice in which more than 70 per cent
buildings are occupied without completion certificates makes the
procedure of obtaining completion certificates a total farce. It can
also lead to various malpractices, professional accountability
therefore seems to be the only way to improve matters.</p>
<p>It is indeed gratifying to note that the group of architects
who
participated in the deliberations of the Committee came forward to
accept such heavy responsibility. It is however essential that
professionals who accept such responsibility should protected against
unjustified action. To ensure this, the Committee recommends setting
up of a jury by the Lt. Governor to whom cases against the architects
would be referred to. Some senior representatives of the profession
would be on the jury to ensure that architects were not unjustifiably
proceeded against. This would have the added advantage of subjecting
planning issues to public and professional review. It is about time
that the city authorities opened up their actions for public scrutiny
instead of doing every thing behind closed doors.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold;">Implementation
Issues</span> </p>
<p>Most Committee reports grope through layers of processing. If
the
Delhi Administration is serious about this reform, I suggested that a
small implementation committee headed by Secretary. Local self
Government, Delhi Administration and with Shri. S C Gupta, Director
Planning. DDA and Shri. Anoop Aggarwal, Chief Law, HUDCO, as members,
may be constituted. The Committee can invite other persons to elicit
opinion but no additional members should be on the Committee if it
has no study and implement the recommendations within a reasonable
time.</p>
<p>Once again, I would like to thank the Lt. Governor, Delhi for
taking this initiative.</p>
<h3><a name="4"></a>4. Minute of dissent of Shri S D Satpute, Chief Architect, NDMC </h3>
<p>The NDMC is not agreeable to the suggestion of the Committee
for
giving power for the sanctioning of plans and grant of Completion
Certificate in the hands of Private Architect. In this connection, it
is mentioned that the NDMC had constituted a Sub-Committee to examine
the suggestions put-forth by Shri Shashi Sehgal, Hon Joint Secretary,
Indian Institute of Architect. Recommendations of the Sub-Committee
duly approved by the Building Plan Committee of NDMC vide Reso No 30
dated 5.5.1988 have already been sent to Shri S K Sharma, CMD, HUDCO
along with a copy to Shri Rakesh Bali, Under Secretary (LSG) vide our
letter No 9153-54/CA/BP dated 6.5.1998.</p>
The NDMC favors the existing system but modifications to the
same
could be made wherever found necessary after due considerations by
the Committee. 
Prior clearance from Fire Officer should be insisted upon
because
the system of Fire Safety to be installed is ultimately going to be
used by the Fire Authorities in case of Emergency. If the system so
installed is not found acceptable by them at later stages then it
will create great complications.
<p>Our detailed views on all other points have already been
communicated as mentioned at point number 1 above and are for the
consideration of the committee. </p>
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Notes:&nbsp;</span>
<ol>
  <li><a name="n1"></a>The Committee was of
the view that this needed to be reduced to 30
days through an amendment to the Act.</li>
</ol>
<p style="page-break-before: always;"> 
</p>
<div class="smallNoBorder_silver">
	<h4><a name="5"></a>5. Annexure:&nbsp;PLANNING PERMISSON Proforma to be submitted by the owner 
</h4>
<ol>
  <li>Name, Status &amp; Address</li>
  <li>Name of Architect with the Address with the Registration
Number with the Council of Architecture under the Architect Act, 1972.</li>
  <li>Details of the property/plot
    <ol type="a">
      <li>Location</li>
      <li>Boundaries</li>
      <li>Area in sqm with dimensions (Net plot area)</li>
      <li>Width of the roads</li>
    </ol>
</li>
  <li>Land Use
    <ol type="a">
      <li>Master Plan</li>
      <li>Zonal Development Plan</li>
      <li>Approved layout Plan</li>
    </ol>
</li>
  <li>Title
    <ol type="a">
      <li>Free Hold</li>
      <li>Lease-hold under notification for acquisition. 
If lease-hold permission of Lessor for construction under the lease
conditions obtained</li>
      <li>Whether under acquisition, if so give details.</li>
    </ol>
</li>
  <li>Whether the plot/land is affected under the Urban Land
(Ceiling &amp; Regulations) Act, 1976. If so, copy of the NOC from
the competent authority is furnished.</li>
  <li>Proposals
    <ol type="a">
      <li>Land Use</li>
      <li>Coverage on each floor with proposed use of the floor
space.</li>
      <li>FAR</li>
      <li>Height</li>
      <li>No. of floors</li>
      <li>Envelope contours/Set-backs</li>
      <li>Parking norms</li>
    </ol>
</li>
</ol>
Encl:
<ol>
  <li>Ownership title</li>
  <li>Permission to construct under the lease</li>
  <li>Permission under the Ceiling Act</li>
  <li>Site/location plan</li>
  <li>Tentative proposals to explain the scheme.</li>
</ol>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p> _________________ __________________</p>
<p> Signature of Architect Signature of the owner</p>
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   <summary><![CDATA[In late July of 2005, I was invited by Inside Outside magazine
to participate in their expo in Bangalore. The idea was to give young
architects like me a chance to get noticed. I took the stall, but
instead of designing and building the perfect bedroom, I set it up with
a TV, two speakers and an amp and screened a film. It was odd, to put
it mildly. Many people stopped and wondered what this was about. Many
wanted my television, some even offered a good price on my jute rug,
and then there were some who would sit on the floor and watch.&nbsp;
The film was 82 minutes of architects talking about design,
the profession, public processes, professional frustrations, and
personal manifestos. Suddenly architecture was out in the public
domain, lay people started commenting on design; they found to their
utter disbelief that architects didn&rsquo;t drive Ferraris, and
holiday in Bora Bora; that planning efforts required designers; that
architects did more than just elevations; that truth be told vaastu was
the enemy; and that though architects loved to talk (as was evident to
anyone watching), almost all of us found communicating with our clients
the toughest part of our job.&nbsp;
I kept a diary on site and it is filled with random comments
by the visitors on issues rarely discussed in the public domain, issues
to do with our built environment, its impact, the political and social
meanings attached to it, and the place of design in our lives. It is
time now for these discussions to find their way into mainstream media
- newspapers, television, etc. Without this extensive and critical
coverage the debate about what makes for good architecture, and in turn
a good city will never find resonance amongst the most important people
in the world, our potential clients.&nbsp;
For the film I met with 24 architects, 3 academicians and 5
students of architecture in the city over the course of two weeks. I
collected around 15 hours of footage, traveled close to 500 kms, and
lost 5 kilos in the process.]]></summary>
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      <![CDATA[In late July of 2005, I was invited by Inside Outside magazine
to participate in their expo in Bangalore. The idea was to give young
architects like me a chance to get noticed. I took the stall, but
instead of designing and building the perfect bedroom, I set it up with
a TV, two speakers and an amp and screened a film. It was odd, to put
it mildly. Many people stopped and wondered what this was about. Many
wanted my television, some even offered a good price on my jute rug,
and then there were some who would sit on the floor and watch.<br />&nbsp;<br />
The film was 82 minutes of architects talking about design,
the profession, public processes, professional frustrations, and
personal manifestos. Suddenly architecture was out in the public
domain, lay people started commenting on design; they found to their
utter disbelief that architects didn&rsquo;t drive Ferraris, and
holiday in Bora Bora; that planning efforts required designers; that
architects did more than just elevations; that truth be told vaastu was
the enemy; and that though architects loved to talk (as was evident to
anyone watching), almost all of us found communicating with our clients
the toughest part of our job.<br />&nbsp;<br />
I kept a diary on site and it is filled with random comments
by the visitors on issues rarely discussed in the public domain, issues
to do with our built environment, its impact, the political and social
meanings attached to it, and the place of design in our lives. It is
time now for these discussions to find their way into mainstream media
- newspapers, television, etc. Without this extensive and critical
coverage the debate about what makes for good architecture, and in turn
a good city will never find resonance amongst the most important people
in the world, our potential clients.<br />&nbsp;<br />
For the film I met with 24 architects, 3 academicians and 5
students of architecture in the city over the course of two weeks. I
collected around 15 hours of footage, traveled close to 500 kms, and
lost 5 kilos in the process]]>
      <![CDATA[<h2>Transcript:</h2>
We spokeprimarily about the following issues.
<blockquote>
<ol>
  <li><a href="#1">DOES DESIGN MATTER? Are there
tangible benefits?</a></li>
  <li><a href="#2">IDENTITY, STYLE &amp;
CONTEXT: the Question of
&lsquo;place&rsquo; - public/private</a></li>
  <li><a href="#3">THE CLIENT v/s THE ARCHITECT v/s
THE CITY: Is there a
conflict?</a></li>
  <li><a href="#4">MONEY: Are we compensated enough?</a></li>
  <li><a href="#5">DEVELOPMENT PLANS &amp;
BUILDING BYE-LAWS: Impact on
city form / involvement of the community</a></li>
  <li><a href="#6">THE COA &amp; THE IIA: Do we
have a common platform?</a></li>
  <li><a href="#7">THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE ARCHITECTS
FACE: to Dream, to Convince, to Txecute</a></li>
  <li><a href="#8">ARCHITECTURAL EDUCATION: Theory
v/s Practice</a></li>
  <li><a href="#9">DIRECTION OF THE PROFESSION: Is
there a new paradigm?</a></li>
  <li><a href="#10">MANIFESTO</a></li>
</ol>
</blockquote>
<blockquote><a name="1"></a>Anjali:
<em>You&rsquo;re an
architect. Make a building, make switches,
and make some little lamps. Because everyone will be happy who made
this house.</em><br />&nbsp;</blockquote>
<h3>1. DOES DESIGN MATTER? are
there tangible benefits?<span class="newsMenu"></span></h3>&nbsp;<br />
<blockquote>Kiran Venkatesh: Only design
matters, if I can put it that
way. Design
is what gives life to the entire project.
  <p></p>
  <p>Anil Dube: Oh yeah, I think
design matters a lot. It brings about a
positive feel in every aspect.</p>
  <p>Sathya Prakash Varanashi:
Design does not matter. For a happy living,
for a comfortable living, where we are with ourselves, design does not
matter. What matters is our heart, our mind, the way we think, whether
we are able to resolve our contextual crises around.</p>
  <p>Hareesh Asnani: Yes it does
- there&rsquo;s no argument about that.
Of course it matters.</p>
  <p>Ravindra Kumar: Yeah, I
think so. Absolutely. I think design brings in
that completeness, it qualifies that space to generate wealth.</p>
  <p>Soumitro Ghosh: Yeah, it
definitely makes money. Anywhere good design,
from product design to...good design will make money and people are
willing to spend more per square foot for a better designed place than
otherwise.</p>
  <p>Kavya Thimmaiah: It depends
on the target audience, it depends on the
market at which you are aiming at because this sort of high-end market,
they are willing to pay more for good design. For them it does matter
but if you are doing group housing, mass housing, low income housing
then I don&rsquo;t think for them it really matters.</p>
  <p>V. Narasimhan:
Extraordinarily. I don&rsquo;t see design as some
castle-in-the-air kind of logic - this is the big idea kind of stuff. I
see design as intervention. In India you cannot have solutions, you can
only intervene because the rest of the problem is too big to crack.</p>
  <p>Sanjay Mohe: Yeah it does
matter, I am sure it matters. And there are a
lot of these developers who are selling it on the basis of design, not
just the quantity. Most of them are talking about quality.</p>
  <p>Edgar Demello: The only
thing that will run the world is design. Its
not about making things for an elitist group - the fundamental nature
of design.</p>
  <p>Ranjit Naik: Definitely, no
doubt about it.</p>
  <p>Nagaraj Vastarey: I really
don&rsquo;t think so. Okay if you are
just talking about design value and its remuneration, I really
don&rsquo;t think so because quite a few times clients have cribbed
about it (my immediate neighbour makes so much more money without all
this). A well designed building may not sell better.</p>
  <p>Arunjot Singh Bhalla: Design
is essence. Design is core.</p>
  <p>Janardhan Reddy: Yes, design
has mattered.</p>
  <p>K. Jaisim: I would put it in
the higher step and say architecture
matters.</p>
  <p>Prem Chandavarkar: Design
does matter. We tend to look at art and
design as some kind of luxury, but actually you think about societies
whose struggle for survival is most precarious - you look at rural
societies, at tribal societies - they are highly embedded in art, in
terms of the way they decorate their walls, in terms of the artifacts
they make. It is only people whose struggle for survival somehow is not
so precarious suddenly say that art is a luxury. So I think we need to
connect to the fact that art is actually something very fundamental to
survival, that&rsquo;s the way we are as humans.
  </p>
</blockquote>
<div class="newsMenu" align="right"><a name="2"></a><a
 href="#top">(top of this
page)</a></div>
<h3>2. IDENTITY, STYLE
&amp; CONTEXT: the Question of &lsquo;place&rsquo; -
public/private </h3>&nbsp;<br />
<blockquote>Anup Naik: We&rsquo;re
losing our identity. Basically that
is where
the problem lies. We are not probably getting back to reacting to our
own environments. This whole business of globalization has actually
made most buildings look similar - you take a building in Dubai, you
take a building anywhere in south-east Asia, or look at it in India.
  <p></p>
  <p>Hareesh Asnani: From a
distance but. (laughs)</p>
  <p>K. Jaisim: Today we are in a
different ethos. Is technology pushing us?
Yes. Is tradition and culture pushing us? Yes. But where will the
fusion come. I feel it is now time for each of us as an architect or as
a creative person to slowly find an identity true to this soil and to
this origin.</p>
  <p>K.S. Ananthakrishna: In fact
one German professor asked me the
question, &ldquo;Why is it that I don&rsquo;t see anything
Indian in some of the modern buildings coming up in
Bangalore?&rdquo;, and I explained that the general culture of
Indians is that they try to mimic the west.</p>
  <p>Ranjit (S): It&rsquo;s a
clear imitation of the west.</p>
  <p>Tony Kunnel George: We find
it easier just to mimic the west. Buy the
materials from what is happening internationally, apply it to buildings
and see if the architecture looks good. We don&rsquo;t try and
script a language that is wholesome.</p>
  <p>Sanjay Mohe: There is an
excessive obsession towards this transparency
which is probably a totally western influence. And then you create
these transparent facades and try to close it again with curtains and
blinds. In this whole transparent city there is no place for a ray of
light.</p>
  <p>Nagaraj Vastarey: Being in
21st century, I guess, we need to respect
our time. We need to respect the space we are in. So there should not
be any deliberate association towards a set trend.</p>
  <p>Ravindra Kumar: Making a
place has become more an essential process of
doing it right rather than reflecting it to the context. I think
because there is not much of context here other than the vegetation
that we pride around with, there is not much of history.</p>
  <p>Anil Dube: I definitely look
at the context. I don&rsquo;t ignore
that at all.
  </p>
  <p>Arunjot Singh Bhalla: Not
enough is being done Even in our projects and
that&rsquo;s the reality. Not enough is being done. I can say to
you, and I am on record here, that we will continue to make and improve
upon this particular aspect. I think the question is very, very
important.</p>
  <p>V. Narasimhan: I think
it&rsquo;s futile also to think of imposing
any kind of...Bangalore as a city is not a heritage city, in that
sense, it doesn&rsquo;t have any real character. Its an edge city.
I call it city without boundaries.</p>
  <p>Ravindra Kumar: If an
edifice exists on one particular part of a street
or a fabric, it is complete only when you almost don&rsquo;t even
look at it when you pass by. If it is so non-visible, non-screening
kind of an act, then in some way that urbanity becomes complete because
it&rsquo;s so well networked with the rest of the community.</p>
  <p>J. Sandeep: Even
analogically speaking, I would say, you could akin
this entire approach to something like a game of
&lsquo;Sudoku&rsquo;.</p>
  <p>Prem Chandavarkar: Trophy
architecture tends to polarize opinions. A
minority love it but a large majority tend to hate it. And it
doesn&rsquo;t talk about how you construct a sense of street, how
do you construct a sense of square etc., it doesn&rsquo;t talk
about those crucial issues at the city level.</p>
  <p>Sudheendhra Yalavigi: City
is a collection of buildings over a period
of time. As an individual you have to behave as though you are part of
a team, you are in a collective realm. When you are designing a
building at least take into account what has happened surrounding you.
This is completely lacking in the Bangalore community of architects.
That may be because as students they were not sensitized to the urban
issues, or design issues in an urban context.</p>
  <p>Ravindra Kumar: I think most
architects, when they begin to work, they
have good intentions or great intentions if they can believe, but
somewhere they get lost.</p>
  <p>Nagaraj Vastarey: The city as you have seen has gone bad.
There is no
coherent thinking. After all its democracy, let say, but each one of us
does what one wants and there is no concern for the overall image.</p>
  <p>Prem Chandavarkar: And there
is no discourse about how these projects
contribute towards the city. The problem we have in India is that there
is no theory of the city, any notion of authenticity of our culture is
always rooted in the village. So I think we need to learn how to think
of our cities as cultural entities and to look [at] how
architecture contributes towards that culture.</p>
  <p>Tony Kunnel George:
That&rsquo;s where we have lost it. At every
convention we talk [about] how we take the city forward. Do we need a
style, is it vernacularism or is it cultural? For fifty years, we have
been talking [about] this. We&rsquo;ve never come together and said
how do we make this on a platform where the economics of this work.
Because, finally, at the end of the day its economics that makes
anything happen.</p>
  <p>K. Jaisim: The immediate or
the ad-hoc seems to rule, rather than the
long term. What should really culture into themselves as an experience.
I don&rsquo;t think that is still in the Indian architectural
context.</p>
  <p>Tony Kunnel George: In
today&rsquo;s world, we all seem to be lost
in this romanticism. It cannot be. The world is different. Its
eclectic. Races are coming together. You cannot create a strong
structured fabric. It is imperative that there is going to be an
eclecticism that is going to arrive.</p>
  <p>Arunjot Singh Bhalla: I
think that the work that is happening is
resonating with the eclecticism of the city. That cannot be used as a
guise to explain away bad design. It cannot be a convenience answer.</p>
  <p>V. Narasimhan: In some
sense, if you look at the way, say, shopping
areas are designed in the west. American architects always come up
with, &ldquo;You know, what we need is some of that messy
vitality.&rdquo; What we have in India is actually extremely messy
vitality.</p>
  <p>Rajmohan Shetty: The whole
notion of the public realm has been put on
the back burner or forgotten.</p>
  <p>Nisha Mathew-Ghosh: Are we
designing outdated community vehicles? Yeah,
absolutely, I think we just need to re look at how society has changed
significantly. Not that we buy consumerism, not that we have to accept
it in its full form. But there&rsquo;s a very real change
happening. We just need to understand that, I guess.</p>
  <p>Soumitro Ghosh: But I
seriously feel that there are other options which
are not as radical as whether its is having a park or a mall. I think
there are possibilities of in betweens which can become very exciting
public places.</p>
  <p>Kiran Venkatesh: I think for
a long time, the generation of public
spaces used to be [in] the realm of the city. The cities would define
policy, they would have guidelines which say this is how public space
is defined. They are no longer able to do that. We have to look to
developers, we have to look to a combination of developers with the
interest and intelligence and good architects to generate that in the
commercial projects.</p>
  <p>Nisha Mathew-Ghosh: Private
enterprise driving public domain, as you
very rightly put it.</p>
  <p>Kiran Venkatesh: Incentivize
it to these builders saying,
&ldquo;You do the ground floor a certain way, or you do the site
and the parking a certain way and you get the incentive of an extra
floor.&rdquo;</p>
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<h3>3. THE CLIENT V/S THE
ARCHITECT V/S THE CITY: Is there a conflict?</h3>&nbsp;<br />
<blockquote>P.K. Venkataramanan: I would
not call them conflicts. There
are
problems in these areas. When you deal with each other there are
problems. And all problems have solutions.
  <p></p>
  <p>Ravindra Kumar: Each of it in isolation has their own
agenda. In any
part of the world this is a fact. But I think it becomes complete only
when its a very harmonious kind of integration of all these three
modules.</p>
  <p>Sathya Prakash Varanshi: The
kind of relationship which was there ten
years ago is not happening today. We see that, in many projects the
builder dominates, in some projects the owner dominates and in some
projects the architect dominates. Ideally, no one should dominate. It
should be a scenario where there is a collaborative effort between the
three people. Only then the best of the lot really happens.</p>
  <p>K. Jaisim: The growth of the
space and the growth of the final form is
a subtle growth of interaction between the client, the space, the
builder, the architect and everybody else.</p>
  <p>Tony Kunnel George: There obviously is a dichotomy and most
of it has
to do with greed. It&rsquo;s very greed driven. When I use the word
greed, its again back to economics. If architects really understood
economics he can explain to a client or can walk him through and say
that it makes better economic sense to follow the rules than rather to
do that.</p>
  <p>Sudheendhra Yalavigi: But I think the design begins not with
the money.
Design begins at a more abstract level. Money comes in a little later.
If the design has been developed to certain extent where it can be sold
as an idea people will find the money for it.</p>
  <p>Arun Balan: Today I think
it&rsquo;s mostly a client driven
practice or it is more about numbers and its more about - how much for
less.</p>
  <p>Hareesh Asnani: Respect for
the architect is a little bit on the
downside. The ideal situation is you would go to an architect because
you have seen his work, you like what he&rsquo;s done, and
you&rsquo;d go to him. &ldquo;I want you to do the
work.&rdquo; I think it&rsquo;s the other way around where the
architect is going to the client.</p>
  <p>Sudheendhra Yalavigi:
Practice is always client driven. Academic work
is always conceptually driven. But there has to be a mix between both.
We have, as a community of architects not been able to tell the clients
or even convince them [of] the idea
that design which is conceptually driven can give them a better
environment.</p>
  <p>Anil Dube: I am a very
user-friendly architects. I&rsquo;d like to
give to a client not what I want, but what he wants. So my duty as an
architect is always to try and translate his thoughts and his style of
living into a building form. Whatever buildings I have done, each one
is different from the other because it is related more to the client
than to me.</p>
  <p>Janardhan Reddy: I think
it&rsquo;s more important to understand,
first of all, what a client wants, and then you look into your various
parameters which you have set - all these like site context, edge
conditions, city, what happens to [the] street, public, society. I
think those issues come later. First of all, it is the client.</p>
  <p>Anup Naik: Most homes become
an interpretation of the end-user. The
architect is just realizing the client&rsquo;s dreams.
He&rsquo;s just a platform for that.</p>
  <p>Nisha Mathew-Ghosh: But I
think you have to keep the clients agenda at
bay while you&rsquo;re working on design. Sometimes, because, that
can otherwise sound a death knell for the project. Because their agenda
is always so pressing, in terms of time. Sometimes you need to fend
that away for while. It&rsquo;s always a struggle, though, in
retrospect you, kind of, put it nicely. It&rsquo;s always an
agonizing struggle to resolve these.</p>
  <p>Kiran Venkatesh: As an
office we have always taken the stand that we
are very up front with the client, saying, put all the constraints on
the table. We will negotiate and agree on a set of parameters - be it
cost, be it area, whatever it is, and then you respect us for what we
develop based on those forces.</p>
  <p>Ravindra Kumar: There have
been so many instances where a
client&rsquo;s communication has helped us to understand what
should be right for him or wrong and I always call that being a
collaborator.</p>
  <p>Rajmohan Shetty: The Case
Study Houses. There it is when program begins
to provoke the architecture through speculation. So you begin to write
and say okay, you are going through a really crucial moment that never
existed, which is the post war period, the baby boom, etc., in the US.
And John Entenza, the editor of a magazine, Arts and Architecture
magazine, takes it upon himself to pose this question to twenty six
architects: Speculate on the house of the future. He goes the whole
shebang - buys the sites, gives it to each of the architects.
Speculate. It does make a difference - it shifts. But John Entenza
didn&rsquo;t go about saying, &ldquo;I am going to build twenty
seven iconic houses.&rdquo; He said, think, what is
it? So it was up to the architects to re frame the program that was
given to them according to his or her areas of interest. That, on
hindsight, one could say, does come close to some sort of iconic
status. A paradigm shift, another way of thinking.</p>
  <p>Arun Balan: Today I think
people are getting a little more sensitive to
this whole issue of expression and so they don&rsquo;t mind if they
lose out a bit of FAR. They are quite happy saying we do stylish
buildings. Each one of them, mostly youngsters, all of them say we want
something very different. Almost on all the projects people are always
asking for something different. They don&rsquo;t want the regular
car porch, regular staircases, they want to do a lot of things today. I
think it&rsquo;s great. It&rsquo;s also because people are well
traveled and they are exposed to several cultures, and there is the TV.</p>
  <p>K. Jaisim: These people,
absolutely no idea what architecture is,
they&rsquo;ve got a shopping list. You happen to be one more shop.
In fact, the way they come and question me saying will you do this,
will you do that? I smile and say &ldquo;You came through a door,
there&rsquo;s a door to go out.&rdquo;</p>
  <p>Sanjay Mohe: As long as
there&rsquo;s a civilization,
there&rsquo;s going to be this conflict between the Classical and
the Popular. It&rsquo;s not necessary that the
Classical is going to be liked by everybody. That distinction will
always stay.</p>
  <p>Ranjit Naik: In our country
one of the things which is available
abundantly and free of cost is advise.</p>
  <p>Satish Naik: There are a few
individuals with whom I have enjoyed
working because they behave exactly like if you were dealing with a
company. Because of the faith.</p>
  <p>J. Sandeep: If somebody is
sensitive, most of the other factors are
taken care of because your agenda is not about catering to a client or
to a system but finally being sensitive to the place and making an
appropriate kind of structure.</p>
  <p>Manoj Ladhadh: There are
lots of things that are behind the scene which
the client need not know. Its not important that he should know, but
it&rsquo;s your hidden agenda that you cover, as part of your
focus. Every time we have met a client, new people, we have said that
for us the ultimate is the project, I will overrule myself and you in
the interest of the project.</p>
  <p>Anup Naik: You are always
looking at a different direction. You
don&rsquo;t need to tell the client that, that I am doing this for
my professional gratification. I am doing it because he thinks its a
good idea and you are continuing, but you are actually developing a
different system altogether. It might take one project, two projects,
or three projects but we are actually using that base as an R&amp;D
facility.</p>
  <p>Soumitro Ghosh: Any creative
individual has, definitely, a personal
agenda which is actually what keeps them going. If it is not there then
they are dead. They are just doing what is told to them and then they
are not bringing anything more than a service, so to say.</p>
  <p>Anil Dube: Not only with
builders, with clients also you try to bring
in your agenda, but not force it on him.</p>
  <p>P.K. Venkataramanan:
Persuasive powers are absolutely necessary for an
architect and he has to acquire this skill. This is not taught to him
in any school. That&rsquo;s why lots of youngsters who are jumping
into the profession, they think they already know everything. You
cannot say, &ldquo;this or nothing else, either you take my design
or...&rdquo; It&rsquo;s a dialogue.</p>
  <p>K. Jaisim: Developers are
very important to the growth of a city. They
could, in fact, if properly understood and they understand, be the
biggest engines of great growth. But they must get away from the
grabbing factor.</p>
  <p>V. Narasimhan: Architects
have to learn to work with developers.
Developers are the true planners of the city in the absence of a
planning mechanism.</p>
  <p>P.K. Venkataramanan: He
said, &ldquo;If you do a builder building
it is prostitution.&rdquo; I was shocked actually. I said,
&ldquo;How you can you say this, because, whether you like it or
not the city is going to be full of such buildings. This is the
reality, if you want to save the reality, you better get involved in
that process.&rdquo;</p>
  <p>Kiran Venkatesh: I think
developers are really setting the tone, so one
has to see whether you can get them onto a forum and actually address
an issue where you say, &ldquo;Look, you guys are actually helping
shape the city, can you do more?&rdquo; How does the developer give
back something to the city, which is just not better amenities for the
people who live in that apartment unit or who use that public building.
So I think, if that dialogue can be set at some forum between the
architects and developers, then you&rsquo;ve got to go to the
government with a proposal saying if there is a commercial building in
the CBD, or in these areas, and it does 1, 2 and 3, give up some part
of its areas, it could be either parking, it could be public amenities,
it could be space, it could be the creation of something as simple as
an auditorium. If you do A for the public environment, or the public
space, then you get these rewards. You have to incentivize this.</p>
  <p>Arunjot Singh Bhalla: The
developer is also governed by the commercial
end of things, they also want to do it quickly. So now you have a
number of people who want it faster and faster. They are willing to
spend more, they want to de-shutter faster, they want to cast faster.
When they are doing these kinds of things, the pressure is coming onto
the poor designer who is supposed to put something that meets the
requirement of the client, the client&rsquo;s clients and the speed
requirement.</p>
  <p>P.K. Venkataramanan: They
don&rsquo;t have time. They say in six
months we have to move in and they say, &ldquo;Either you deliver
or we go somewhere else.&rdquo; There will definitely be a
compromise on quality, because of compressed time, it&rsquo;s
possible. I won&rsquo;t say its possible, it always will be the
case actually.</p>
  <p>Edgar Demello: The patron is
the builder. We are facing this thing day
in and day out. We are doing almost no builder work. We used to do it
earlier and we gave up because we produced rubbish, I could say myself,
because we got caught up in that vortex and we said we can&rsquo;t
go on like this. Now you&rsquo;re fighting all the time because
there is a &lsquo;language&rsquo; or a
&lsquo;non-language&rsquo; that has been established
that&rsquo;s a quick fix. And people love a quick fix.</p>
  <p>Soumitro Ghosh: Its like a
B-Grade Bollywood film, you know. Its like,
yeh daal de, yeh daal de, it&rsquo;ll work. They don&rsquo;t
want to think more than that. Why should they? They&rsquo;re making
&lsquo;x&rsquo; amount of money. He&rsquo;ll tell you
directly, &ldquo;Dimag nahi kharaab karne ka, you don&rsquo;t
have to do all this. I want it fast. Put these few elements,
we&rsquo;re done.&rdquo;</p>
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<h3>4. MONEY: Are we
compensated enough?&nbsp;<span class="newsMenu"></span></h3>&nbsp;<br />
<blockquote>Anil Dube: I think if we
follow the professional fee structure
you are
paid well.
  <p></p>
  <p>Tony Kunnel George: Simple
things like, ethics of practice. The COA
says do not drop your fee below 4%. Its difficult when the rest of the
architectural practices are saying, well, we are willing to drop to any
level.</p>
  <p>Ranjit Naik: Undercutting is
there, but I guess undercutting is a part
of any industry. Of course, it&rsquo;s not a professional thing</p>
  <p>Prem Chandavarkar: I
wouldn&rsquo;t depend on any institutional
protection like some mandatory scale of fees, like what the institute
[IIA] or the council [COA] have tried to do. I think each of us needs
to think about differentiation, so that we are not just like any
another architect.</p>
  <p>Manu (S): I have no regrets,
absolutely no regrets, about taking up
this profession because it has opened my mind so much. Its made me
think about so many things. We are so much more sensitive than
engineers, doctors and lawyers, even though they are getting paid
twenty times the amount we are.</p>
  <p>Ranjit (S): You are not
doing it purely for money.</p>
  <p>Sathya Prakash Varanashi: This profession is not merely a
means to earn
money. There are other means as well. It&rsquo;s also a means to
look at our own selves.</p>
  <p>Bimal (S): The problem is
that when you do only good design you
don&rsquo;t make that much money and you have to eat.</p>
  <p>Anil Dube: It&rsquo;s a
different profession. Then don&rsquo;t
do architecture. If you do architecture then you do it for
it&rsquo;s cause, and for your personal level of satisfaction, and
to educate people around you - this is how you should live, this is how
your house should be. You have to lose something to gain something.</p>
  <p>Manu (S): I think its a
tragedy. Architects right now, are a crippled
profession in the city. You actually find them struggling to make ends
meet. I am not talking about people you know, I am not talking about
Anil Dube, I am not talking about Sandeep, I am not talking about Mr.
Bijoy, but I am talking about other architects in the city.</p>
  <p>Anil Dube: And they expect
money. I would have worked for free in my
time, that&rsquo;s the way we were taught.</p>
  <p>Tharunya (S): Its not
tangible and lots of people think, so what, I can
do this myself - I can figure out what needs to go where, I can figure
out how to make my home look the best, or my building look the best.</p>
  <p>Prem Chandavarkar: Most
architects run their practices very
inefficiently. They don&rsquo;t look at difference between the
percentage [of the] completion of the project and the percentage of the
fee paid, so they leave large amounts of money untapped, which they
don&rsquo;t even collect. So therefore they are driven to survive
at a subsistence level whereas they need not.</p>
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<h3>5. DEVELOPMENT PLANS: And
impact on the city form/involvement of the community</h3>&nbsp;<br />
<blockquote>J. Sandeep: I
wouldn&rsquo;t say its a good manual,
probably you
are relating only to the numbers and the numbers are worked out really
well, but as far as city form and the other issues are concerned,
it&rsquo;s direly lacking.
  <p></p>
  <p>Nagaraj Vastarey: The city
planners, I really wonder, how they work.
It&rsquo;s always a two dimensional thing, and byelaws would mean
what? Just to satisfy numbers.</p>
  <p>Kiran Venkatesh: what you
need to really worry about [in] the CDB is
that it doesn&rsquo;t have a comprehensive transport management
plan, or a traffic management plan for the entire city, it
doesn&rsquo;t address that issue.</p>
  <p>Janardhan Reddy: I
don&rsquo;t think they suit our city and our
conditions.</p>
  <p>Soumitro Ghosh: At the
moment whatever byelaws are active, they do not
reflect in any way, where it&rsquo;s achieving any of the goals
that it sets out for itself.</p>
  <p>Anil Dube: Let&rsquo;s
just build on FAR and coverage and leave the
set backs to the individual, with some sort of thought that he would
like to give to his neighbour for light, air and ventilation. I think
out of sheer respect for each other, those things will start happening.</p>
  <p>Arun Balan: You
can&rsquo;t expect the same FAR that is applicable
twenty kilometers from the CBD applying in the CBD. Not happening. I
personally feel that you need to segregate zones, you need to allocate
commercial, residential, service zones, recreation zones, everything
has to be separated out from one another.</p>
  <p>Kiran Venkatesh:
It&rsquo;s a very exciting idea of integrating
multiple uses. Its rather boring to have only housing tucked away, put
a circle there, put another circle and say this is commercial. It is
nice to integrate it, but the integration comes at a huge cost of
traffic becoming chaotic. And traffic and parking that&rsquo;s the
issue which needs to be balanced with this hybrid or mixed programming
that the new CDP is envisioning.</p>
  <p>Nisha Mathew-Ghosh:
Somewhere the government has stumbled badly in
providing the right vision, beyond its immediate political gain - which
is a much wider vision for the people.</p>
  <p>Akhtar Nagaria:
He&rsquo;s investing so much in land cost, which is
changing everyday, its becoming difficult for him to buy land at the
price that he decided yesterday.
Apart from buying land and setting up infrastructure, he has to think
about running his own business. So is it fair for us to ask the
software developers that he has to worry about it at the city level
also. Its something that somebody else should be doing for him.</p>
  <p>Edgar Demello: Today what do
you see? You see somebody dissatisfied
with roads, so they come and build a road. Somebody dissatisfied, he
can&rsquo;t get there on time, so they come and build a fly-over.
So it&rsquo;s all I, me, mine, it&rsquo;s not ours. So now if
you really talk about housing, do these stake holders really look at
the larger good?</p>
  <p>K. Jaisim: I don&rsquo;t
think anybody, even the politicians, the
people in the bureaucracy, the decision makers even have a clue what
this city direction is. If some influential people say there should be
a fly over, there&rsquo;s a fly over. If some of the big business
magnates says we need a big super expressway to us, there is an
expressway. These are like children shopping in a chocolate shop.</p>
  <p>Anil Dube: I find these
people thrown into the papers daily making some
remark or the other about - we should do this, we should have that, but
they don&rsquo;t go to the technically sound people. And there is a
handful of people in Bangalore who are the authority on everything,
whether it comes to roads, whether it comes to building, whether it
comes to IT, whether it comes to shit pots, name it and they are the
final word.</p>
  <p>V. Narasimhan: The
government actually has not recruited any planners
since the mid-eighties.</p>
  <p>Soumitro Ghosh: A lot of
governments work with private consultants to
prepare specialized reports, which are not their cup of tea. You need
experts in a certain field. Now what it means, in addition, is that you
cannot sit back and assume that the particular consultant will not make
any mistakes or cannot be given more feedback from your own experience
on the ground and I think, there should be a separate set of people,
important minds of the city, who need to question the CDP before it is
activated.</p>
  <p>Prem Chandavarkar: We have
no tradition of urban design. We have master
plans which are two-dimensional, formulaic entities, which just
construct like...that&rsquo;s one thing that even the current
master plan has not broken any new ground on. It reduces the city to a
mathematical set of formulae which are applied uniformly across the
city. Whereas Urban Design would look at each specific geographical
location within the city... as how do you construct a sense of
neighbourhood, how do you construct a sense of scale. And she [Jane
Jacobs] says that the city develops a culture out of an intense network
of street-level
pedestrian contacts and she says that contemporary town planning
schemes tend to devalue that. They look at the city as a machine, they
don&rsquo;t look at that intensity of street-level contacts. So the
city has survived culturally in spite of town planning and not because
of town planning.</p>
  <p>Tony Kunnel George: Remove boundary fabric, so buildings
then begin to
be part of an urban structure. Here still every building has a compound
wall. Remove barriers; create interactive movement, let people move
through the buildings</p>
  <p>Ravindra Kumar: We are not
dilapidated. If Bombay is surviving, we have
another thirty years to become Bombay and another fifty years to still
fall apart to become Siwan in Bihar. And we&rsquo;ll never learn. I
am sorry, I think I am being very cynical, but this is what the
imperialists left with us. Its a huge population of corrupt minds.</p>
  <p>Nagaraj Vastarey: I am
certainly not optimistic. If I have to think
about a solution for this: one thing is the civic authorities should
involve people from various walks of life.</p>
  <p>H.C. Thimmaiah: They should
have involved a bigger forum of
professionals, not just architects and planners. It needs a lot of
people, different kinds of people, even a person on the street, a
vendor, he will contribute a lot of things.</p>
  <p>Anup Naik: We have a foreign
company who is actually planning for the
city, is that necessary at all? How much of Indian input is there in
that? In their tenure of one year or two years in the city, is it valid
at all that they are giving you directions for your own city?</p>
  <p>Nagaraj Vastarey: One
generally talks of decentralization. There is a
tremendous need today to develop district nodes rather than working on
Bangalore alone.</p>
  <p>Sanjay Mohe: And the way the
whole growth is happening, it&rsquo;s
so chaotic. Ideally it has to be decentralized.</p>
  <p>Ranjit Naik:
You&rsquo;ll are talking about increasing density in
already dense areas like Chickpet, Avenue Road, you are talking about
zero setbacks, FARs of 3 and 4. This is going to lead to, in simple
terms, immense pressure on the infrastructure.</p>
  <p>Akhtar Nagaria: 60% of the
software guys who come into Bangalore get on
to Whitefield. If you&rsquo;re not going to allow for that 60% to
be staying there, you&rsquo;ve lost it. To allow that you need
higher FAR, to allow that FAR there are so many things.</p>
  <p>Hareesh. Asnani:
Infrastructure has to cope with that density.</p>
  <p>Manoj Ladhad: Between the
past CDP and the new CDP, a large amount of
it is a documentation of what the current trend is and they say that
the current trend is fine, let&rsquo;s go ahead with it. And then
you are trying to patch up with the infrastructure, services, etc.
That&rsquo;s not the overall picture. It needs to be looked at in a
wholistic way.</p>
  <p>Sudheendra Yalavigi:
Although we may have any grouse against the zoning
and the byelaws, in terms of their not being formed properly, our
responsibility is that we first follow it.</p>
  <p>Anup Naik: Ideally we should
look at respecting the law of the land. It
doesn&rsquo;t matter what it is.</p>
  <p>H.C. Thimmaiah:
There&rsquo;s no point in going on blaming the
byelaws. The byelaws are required. A guideline is required and we are
provided with one. If certain items are very strongly objected to, they
can be raised, and I am sure the authorities will concede and make
amendments.</p>
  <p>Prem Chandavarkar: I think
you have to stay within the law even if you
believe that the law doesn&rsquo;t make sense sometimes.</p>
  <p>Nisha Mathew-Ghosh: We have
taken a stand to basically go by the rules
of the profession and not to flout it.</p>
  <p>Soumitro Ghosh: But I think
you should add that we have not worked with
developers so its very easy for us to say it (laughs).</p>
  <p>Bimal (S): You&rsquo;ll
go out to the road over there and say, this
guy has built on the compound wall. That&rsquo;s fully because of
the architect. It&rsquo;s your duty, as an architect, to tell the
client that this cannot be done.</p>
  <p>Akthar Nagaria: The
architects need to be quasi-policemen on the
project. You need to be able to direct either the project or the client
to get him to do the right thing.</p>
  <p>J. Sandeep: And finally it
doesn&rsquo;t answer the needs of the
city. Maybe you do a one lakh twenty [thousand square feet] in a sixty
thousand square feet plot where the FAR is probably one, but at the end
of the day you have to answer the other things - the infrastructure
needs, etc. So I think at the back of our minds we consciously are
saying no, we don&rsquo;t want to go beyond a certain point We know
our limitations and we work within that.</p>
  <p>Manu (S): You said you would
carry a project out to 95% and even if
they tell you to break one byelaw you&rsquo;re going to quit. I
think that&rsquo;s ridiculous.</p>
  <p>Tharunya (S): You
shouldn&rsquo;t stick to your principles to such
an extent.</p>
  <p>Sushir (S): You
shouldn&rsquo;t?</p>
  <p>Bimal (S): I think its
highly personal. If he wants to quit he quits.
If you want to break the byelaws for some reason, its fine. Its your
way of thinking, but it doesn&rsquo;t mean I have to agree.</p>
  <p>Ranjit Naik: On the one hand
you have your responsibilities as an
architect and as a citizen and on other hand you have to feed your
stomach. Ethics come into the picture. Individual ethics.</p>
  <p>P K Venkataramanan:
Ultimately every architect draws his own line, the
line is the lakshman rekha which he will not cross. I will go this far
and no further. The individual architect will have to draw his own
line. If you say, I am not going to compromise on anything, I will
stand on my principles and I will practice architecture, or any other
business for that matter, I do not know how far you will go.</p>
  <p>Nagaraj Vastarey: In terms
of practice I have accepted that violation
is there and it has to be accommodated. But how tastefully can you do
it.</p>
  <p>Hareesh Asnani: We as
professionals should not endorse any kind of
violation. Full stop. And its not even a question of us saying, I will
give you the drawings, you build it, I don&rsquo;t care, no. We
should not be involved in any of that, at all.</p>
  <p>K. Jaisim: Okay which means
do you want hard regulation? That would be
disastrous. No single man can give, on a bureaucratic level, the
overall direction and say this is what you do. Its impossible. We are
not kings here, we are a democracy. It has to work through a process.
But responsibility with that authority must come.</p>
  <p>Manu (S): Abroad you have an
informed panel of jurors who decide what a
building is doing to the city, and they allow the bending of the
byelaws for another reason right? That&rsquo;s what I am talking
about.</p>
  <p>Sushir (S): But you just
said you were talking about the Indian context.</p>
  <p>Manu (S): In the Indian
context its your responsibility to be sensitive
and informed. See by saying this I am not giving license to anyone
break the law.</p>
  <p>Sushir (S): Excuse me you
are.</p>
  <p>Manu (S): They already have
it.</p>
  <p>Kiran Venkatesh: What
continues to be lacking is an enforcement idea of
the byelaws. Currently the byelaw is a guideline which says you do A,
B, C. You get a sanction as per that and you build D, there is no
system which says you have not followed A, B, C, hence you cannot
occupy or there is this huge damage you incur.</p>
  <p>V. Narasimhan: There is
really no enforcement culture in terms of
byelaws except in a sporadic sort of way. I wouldn&rsquo;t say all
of it is a mess, may be 60%, 70% is still within the law. Most south
Indians at least are law-abiding.</p>
  <p>Anil Dube: It was also a
non-governmental body where an architect would
sit and where a town-planner would be there and a corporation guy would
be there. These people would go through the drawing, discuss it, not
individually but on a table, so it became like an iteration and the
attitude was very positive - to help the client to build his structure.</p>
  <p>P.K. Venkataramanan:
It&rsquo;s an absolute pity that we are not a
part of that thing.</p>
  <p>Edgar Demello: The closest
that one came to this was when BATF was set
up by the previous government and they had people on the panel, they
had an architect...They also brought in architects to do some of the
work. But I think at some level there wasn&rsquo;t any vision.</p>
  <p>Sudheendhra Yalavigi:
Probably create a forum in which we as architects
can represent to the people who are forming this development and offer
an alternative wherein they can achieve the same goals by different
means.</p>
  <p>Ranjit Naik: As a part of
PAA, when we had these interactions with the
BMP, everything had already been decided. This was just a formality, an
eyewash. Just to show that, okay we have been interacting with all
these architects, town-planners and Institute of Engineers.</p>
  <p>Satish Naik: When you call
the team of architects to give suggestions
on the development of the city, at least minimum 50% should be accepted.</p>
  <p>Anup Naik: You need a
political voice for this. The reality is that. As
architects, as planners, politics is a reality. I think we need a
political voice, without that things won&rsquo;t work. Otherwise
its all good - written, documented and that&rsquo;s the end of the
story.</p>
  <p>Prem Chandravarkar: I think
these things start with small beginnings.
It perhaps just could be six architects in the city getting together
and saying lets share ideas about our work, lets share preposition
about how our work is making the city. And then those architects coming
together in a forum and trying to raise a voice in the public domain,
perhaps writing articles in the newspaper.</p>
  <p>Sanjay Mohe: Attempts have
been made by professionals and people who
are really serious about this. But probably the commercial pressures
are so high, that as an architect or even a group of architects you
cannot fight those pressures.</p>
  <p>Anil Dube: I think its also
partially our fault. We don&rsquo;t
come forward and sound the authorities that, look, we are there.</p>
  <p>HC Thimmaiah: The
professionals should also get involved. They should
not wait for an invitation as such.</p>
  <p>Rajmohan Shetty:
There&rsquo;s an absolute apathy from the side of
the profession. They are ill interested in what the city means, and for
good reason you never find them on any board that contemplates on
policies and city making. So we really find ourselves absolutely
marginalized because of our own doing.</p>
  <p>Edgar Demello: I think it
has to do with an architect&rsquo;s
inability to voice dissent. He&rsquo;s just unable to do it. He is
caught up with this, in more ways than one, a rather servile sort of
attitude to government.</p>
  <p>Ravindra Kumar: The
architectural community has got to learn to come
together. Half the time its just that nobody has the time to come and
do it right. But that consciousness has to come through.</p>
  <p>J. Sandeep: The law of
averages will catch up with the city. It is not
going to be one-sided for any more time. There is an undercurrent that
there has to be a more conscious and wholistic approach to the
planning, and outlook to the city itself.</p>
  <p>Janardhan Reddy: I think the
state has a major role to play in this. I
think this is a move that should first come from them.</p>
  <p>Edgar Demello: But there is
really no will. There is no political will.</p>
  <p>K. Jaisim: For over thirty
years I have been involved with various
government authorities. I don&rsquo;t think the Indian government
is serious - I think they are just there.</p>
  <p>Ravindra Kumar: I think
finally the political system is very important.
If in New York, to take an example, if Times Square were to change
drastically over a period, whether its the community of people, or a
community of non-profit groups, or the architectural community cannot
do that, at that urban level. You need the conscious government, you
need the conscious coming together of various groups of people to
support that possibility. A bunch of sensible people have to get
together to do sensible things.</p>
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<h3>6. THE COA &amp; THE
IIA: Do we have a common platform?<span class="newsMenu"></span></h3>&nbsp;<br />
<blockquote>Soumitro Ghosh: They have
become rather dead, defunct. They
are not
seen as places, which talk about ideas or as places which are to do
things. They have lost their purpose.
  <p></p>
  <p>Prem Chandravarkar: Our
forums on architecture tend to be more
legalistic. If you look at what the Institute of Architects or the
Council of Architecture is doing - they just look at protecting the
title of the architects on laws regarding who can sign on drawings etc.
There hasn&rsquo;t been enough of issue based discussion on
architecture even within the profession.</p>
  <p>Ravindra Kumar: I think even
in some ways bureaucracy has seeped into
the organizations in some subtle ways.</p>
  <p>K. Jaisim: I am going to get
bashed for the answer I am going to give
you (laughs). I think they have become very political. They have become
very bureaucratic. Everybody is out there for the chair not because
they deserve the chair but because they think by sitting on that chair
they get something. There is no direction, there are no ideas, I think
its just there as one more...its not even a tamasha, they think that by
sitting on that chair they&rsquo;ll get some sort of importance.<br />
Since they are regulatory bodies, since they have got the authority to
penalise you, they survive. If you take away that penal authority,
saying they can&rsquo;t cancel your license, tomorrow morning both
will be buried.</p>
  <p>Rajmohan Shetty: They
haven&rsquo;t done much. I mean they go
through this charade of reviewing schools right? How is it, I would
ask, after they have reviewed these schools, that you still have
schools with no furniture, no library, no space, no toilets and they
still get accreditation.</p>
  <p>Janardhan Reddy: I have got
little communication or nothing at all from
these two institutions. So I am not really aware of their efforts and
what they are doing. I feel there is a lack of communication between
us, architects practicing in the city and the institute.</p>
  <p>Arunjot Singh Bhalla:
Architects do not have a common platform to sit
and discuss across the table. May be everyone is too busy.
There&rsquo;s a lack of will.</p>
  <p>Hareesh Asnani: But it
should be a professional collective direction.</p>
  <p>Akhtar Nagaria: IIA should
be playing a good part of it, COA should be
playing a good part of it. We have no forum, we have an institution.</p>
  <p>Anup Naik: They are the
voice. It can actually be legitimate. They can
legitimize what we want to say or to do.</p>
  <p>Edgar Demello: Whether
it&rsquo;s the COA or its anybody else, I
think there has to be a body that first of all encourages across the
board debate.</p>
  <p>P.K. Venkataramanan: We are
working at cross-purposes. I
don&rsquo;t think that we are a cohesive unit. Somebody needs to
pull them together, make them realize that we cannot exist as
individuals. We need to collectively address this situation, then only
we can find a solution. This is absolutely true, we are fragmented, we
are not coming together.</p>
  <p>Soumitro Ghosh: I think
it&rsquo;s also, I guess the congregation
of architects is not an easy thing. In any creative field the
congregation of creative people is the last thing that will ever happen.</p>
  <p>Ranjit Naik: From PAA point
of view, I can vouch for the fact that the
main stumbling block for us was the lack of enthusiasm from our members
itself. Involvement in these things was not very spontaneous.</p>
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<h3>7. THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE
ARCHITECTS FACE: to Dream, to Convince, to Execute&nbsp;</h3>&nbsp;<br />
<blockquote>Sathya Prakash Varanashi:
Why don&rsquo;t you ask me,
which are the
biggest hundred challenges, don&rsquo;t ask me just one challenge
(Laughs).<br />
I would say communication. I use the word communication because I am
not doing all buildings for myself, we design for others - we need to
understand them. Then there&rsquo;s a builder, a builder has a
supervisor, a supervisor has a mason, and a mason has a&hellip;
(Trails off).
  <p></p>
  <p>Janardhan Reddy: I think it
would be not finding architects to work for
you. (Laughs).</p>
  <p>Anil Dube: The staffs that
you get to work with. It&rsquo;s a bad
scene, I tell you. I don&rsquo;t know what they are teaching in
colleges. And I think the students also they just look for that degree
and come out, and when they work in an office, that&rsquo;s when
they start learning.</p>
  <p>Nagraj Vastarey: I guess the
intent, the intent from the clients.</p>
  <p>Ranjit Naik: Traffic.
(Laughs).</p>
  <p>Satish Naik: To reach the
office.</p>
  <p>Ranjit Naik:
That&rsquo;s why leave early and go back home late.</p>
  <p>Sanjay Mohe: Your ability to
convince the client to do something -
something what you believe in. See that&rsquo;s the basic
difference between an artist and an architect, because as an artist you
can just do something and forget about it, you just do what you want,
but when it comes to architecture, you have to convince a client to do
something good.</p>
  <p>P.K. Venkataramanan:
Sometimes it is a very frustrating thing that some
of them wont listen to any of your solutions, they will brush aside,
they say, &ldquo;Either you do like what I say or you are
out&rdquo;, that is when sometimes you think - you are running a
large organization, there are certain economics in running a large
organization, can I refuse this job on my own principal and say
don&rsquo;t want, get lost? Is it about you or about a lot of other
people who are dependent on you?</p>
  <p>Anil Dube: And also when
people are very adamant about things in
design, it becomes frustrating.</p>
  <p>Ranjit Naik: From our point
of view we would definitely say - over
interference from a client.</p>
  <p>Satish Naik: You issue the
drawing, it goes to the site, and after a
week you go there, you don&rsquo;t see anything as per the
drawings, you see something else, what can you do?</p>
  <p>Sanjay Mohe: Getting it done
right. So in terms of workmanship, that
whole perfectionist attitude that really lacks in our society for some
reason.</p>
  <p>Kiran Venkatesh: The balance
between what we think the project should
be about and what we think the project should do, and meeting the
clients&rsquo; requirements. Because many times even though there
shouldn&rsquo;t be there&rsquo;s this opposition between the
two.</p>
  <p>Ravindra Kumar:
It&rsquo;s trying to convince. Because of this
interface of this communication that we try to go through, that process
of convincing the client, that this is what is right for the space,
this is what is wrong - that is the biggest threshold.</p>
  <p>Edgar Demello: It is how do
you make a client understand that you are
on his side.</p>
  <p>V. Narasimhan: Running the
business part of it, because in the other
realm you are only limited by the strength of your own ideas. Here it
is a physical problem. You&lsquo;ve to keep it running, you must
have continuity, because your are building big projects which will last
for a long time. How to be an architect, and a professional and not to
let go of your&nbsp; design idealism and yet run a business.<br />
You also have to have honesty and integrity in detailing.</p>
  <p>Soumitro Ghosh: I think the
most obvious answer is how to run the
office, how to keep everybody surviving, so that the office
doesn&rsquo;t close down, how to feed the office. You tend to not
look at those questions everyday.</p>
  <p>Nisha Mathew-Ghosh: This is
personal, I would like to be a better
manager as well. It&rsquo;s all very well being a designer and
enjoying it and getting carried away but I certainly think I would like
to be a better manager as well.</p>
  <p>Soumitro Ghosh:
It&rsquo;s to see that you are pushing at
something, which you would like to, and what you have not been able to
do in the past.</p>
  <p>Arunjot Singh Bhalla: The
challenge is quality. Construction quality
here is pathetic.</p>
  <p>K. Jaisim: The inability to
implement the ideas that flow into you, in
its totality.</p>
  <p>Rajmohan Shetty:
They&rsquo;ve employed you, in a sense that they,
sort, of, own you, that you are there to do drawings. When you have the
idea that now it&rsquo;s collaborative, in a sense, that now begins
an adventure, it&rsquo;ll lead to a process of discovery and they
don&rsquo;t realize and in a way they have lost out on this
valuable opportunity.</p>
  <p>Prem Chandavarkar: I think
the biggest issue is learning how to put
forward the value that design provides. I think as a profession
we&rsquo;ve not done that. We don&rsquo;t do that well,
that&rsquo;s why we get pressured on fees, that&rsquo;s why we
get pressured to survive and we are pushed to compromise, because we
don&rsquo;t have a way of articulating those values.<br />
There are other challenges also such as the environmental challenge,
that&rsquo;s something we need to think about - how to make our
buildings more environment friendly.</p>
  <p>Kavya Thimmaiyah: The
biggest challenge for me, personally, is the
Vaastu thing.</p>
  <p>Sanjay Mohe: Instead of
people looking just from that Vaastu point of
view, they should look at it from all these other energies, which
really you have to look at.</p>
  <p>Anil Dube: Fees. Definitely
fees. People take you for granted. They
don&rsquo;t go by what the stipulated fees are and of course
there&rsquo;s a lot of undercutting and a lot of competition so
people work for much lesser fees and percentages.</p>
  <p>Tony Kunnel George: The
biggest challenge today is to actually be in a
position of knowledge - to be able to drive a development.</p>
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<h3>8. ARCHITECTURAL
EDUCATION:
Theory v/s Practice<span class="newsMenu"></span></h3>&nbsp;<br />
<blockquote>Prem Chandavarkar: In India
architectural education tends to
be highly
vocational so the architectural profession by and large is not trained
to think in theoretical or philosophical terms, and that&rsquo;s
the other thing we sorely need - to be to talk about architecture in
general terms.
  <p></p>
  <p>Sudheendhra Yalavigi: Our objective need not be to prepare
students for
the profession. As it is being done. We would like to prepare students
to be future leaders. We don&rsquo;t want them to go straight to an
office and create working drawings. It may be a traumatic experience
for the initial one year but slowly they will learn, but nobody teaches
them conceptual thinking.</p>
  <p>V. Narasimhan: In an
architectural pedagogy point of view it is very
important now for the government, for instance the Council Of
Architecture, [to make it mandatory] that once you come out of the
college you have to intern for at least three years under a senior
architect who has at least about ten years experience and write an exam
after you finish the three years and only then can you practice on your
own.</p>
  <p>Arun Balan: Architectural
education in Bangalore should be scrapped and
I have seen kids who come and work in our office, all so confused
basically because they just don&rsquo;t know what to do, they just
want to finish fifth year architecture and get into a call center.</p>
  <p>Kiran Venkatesh: I think
it&rsquo;s in a dismal state. Basic
grounding in the idea of good design and the approach to good design is
not very rampant across the schools. But what has happened is that
practices are good, across the country there are reasonably good
practices, so when the students train, when the students get absorbed
here, their learning curve is very, very fast, so there&rsquo;s a
sort of fail-safe mechanism, there&rsquo;s a check that things
don&rsquo;t go really berserk and really wrong.</p>
  <p>Sudheendhra Yalavigi: We are
sensitizing the students during their
course, right from the first project we take up, that context is an
important variable in their design.</p>
  <p>Ranjit (S): Mine
wasn&rsquo;t a conscious decision at all. I
thought it was all about sketching, design and colours and things like
that, I really don&rsquo;t know what architecture was all about.
After I joined the course, after two years, I got to know how sensitive
an architect should be to the city, to the surroundings, to everything.
That sought of appeals to me right now. I can contribute something.
That&rsquo;s what is interesting me right now to continue
architecture.</p>
  <p>Tony Kunnel George: The
education system of architecture since the
forties onwards has remained the same. We don&rsquo;t have the
information basis today with us to be actually part of the food chain
in terms any development that happens.</p>
  <p>P.K. Venkataramanan: At the
education level, our present syllabus and
method of teaching is absolutely antiquated and it&rsquo;s not at
all relevant to today&rsquo;s need.</p>
  <p>Nagaraj Vastarey: Whenever I
walk into R.V. College I keep thinking,
you know, in design studio we stress upon spatiality, this, that, we
speak of every possible issue. At the back of their mind none of those
would be important to them. When they pass out, I don&rsquo;t know
think any of this gets applied in practice.</p>
  <p>Ravindra Kumar: See the
problem is that it&rsquo;s back into
bureaucracy and academic sequences which have been established some
years, years ago and its not been investigated right and they still
want to live on that and use that as a weapon. There&rsquo;s no
participation of active architects from the city into these academic
realms because the bureaucracy kills it. Frankly if something has to be
changed its best to shut all of them down.</p>
  <p>Ravindra Kumar: What is
happening is people are there together,
students are there together, they form a community, they are all headed
to a direction so there is investigation and that&rsquo;s what
makes people architects today. Its not the teachers, its not the
curriculum, its not the academic support or its not the lectures that
they might be involved with. I think its just being together.</p>
  <p>Arunjot Singh Bhalla: [This
is] one thing that our profession has
ingrained in it under the guise of creativity, that if I am in an
interview situation with someone I ask him, &ldquo;Did you finish
your thesis on time?&rdquo;</p>
  <p>Edgar Demello: The solution,
in inverted commas, is really our schools.
It has to do with academia, it has to do with faculty I think its at
that level that you create a new consciousness about the public good.</p>
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<h3>9. DIRECTION OF
PROFESSION:
Is there a new paradigm?&nbsp;<span class="newsMenu"></span></h3>&nbsp;<br />
<blockquote>P.K. Venkataramanan: The
importance for the profession is
definitely
loosing ground. This is my feeling. Unless you wake up.
  <p></p>
  <p>K. Jaisim: I think the
profession, if I must answer that, is in a big
confusion.</p>
  <p>Edgar Demello: There is a
very deep crisis in the profession,
that&rsquo;s very clear. You can see it when you open the Times
Property thing or you open any sort of paper and you look at Faux
Rococo or all these Neoclassical things that are really gaining favour
as against the aesthetic or design integrity.</p>
  <p>Arunjot Singh Bhalla: Where
is the profession going, what are we
building? Is it worth our while to build what we are building?
Architect is no longer God.</p>
  <p>P.K. Venkataramanan: [The]
Architect was put on an ivory tower and rest
of them were all supposed to be services. It&rsquo;s no longer the
thing. There is an equal footing.</p>
  <p>Ranjit Naik: The architect
was always the main captain of the ship. Now
I don&rsquo;t think I&rsquo;d be wrong in saying that the PMC,
the project management consultant, has taken over that role.</p>
  <p>Tony Kunnel George: If we
sit at today&rsquo;s meetings you have
project managers, you have finance consultants, people doing risk
management, they take the center stage. Since architects
don&rsquo;t understand this, they are not able to add value.</p>
  <p>Anil Dube: I think first of
all, I would like to say that
there&rsquo;s a boom in the industry and its going haywire. I think
in all respects. Look at design, look at execution, look at the way
development is, its all a mad rush, which is why I feel it&rsquo;s
very haphazard here in Bangalore</p>
  <p>Hareesh Asnani: What is
going downwards now is the attention to
resolving a detail. We are not putting in that much of effort to
resolve our buildings.</p>
  <p>Ranjit Naik: The time taken
for the entire process of design, drawing,
tendering, execution - the whole process has been quite compressed.</p>
  <p>Sanjay Mohe: The speed of
the whole conception of the project to the
actual execution - there is a tremendous change in the whole scenario.
This whole classical way of working where you take a project, keep
working on it, keep changing and again
coming back and keep improving - all that is slowly things of the past.
Nobody has the time to wait, nobody has time to look at all these kinds
of options. You have to get it right the first time.</p>
  <p>V. Narasimhan: What has
happened in the last two or two half years is
that the scale of building has dramatically changed. People talk about
boom in IT, boom in Biotech, really speaking the real boom in India is
in construction. What has happened is that the architects are still
scrambling to get to grips with how to deal with this kind of scale,
and in some sense the clients are also grappling because
they&rsquo;ve also not dealt it. We never used to build such big
buildings, such giant enterprises and facilities. And that is creating
pressures on the architectural profession by what I would call an
increasing push towards corporatisation. Companies want to deal with
other companies, they don&rsquo;t want to deal with prima donna
individuals.</p>
  <p>Ravindra Kumar: When you see
large-scale developments, it cannot be
driven by individuals, it has to be a team exercise. Not many firms
understand that method. So it&rsquo;s still the individual who
dictates and somehow you manage get the process right.</p>
  <p>V. Narasimhan: This will
also drive smaller firms out of existence.</p>
  <p>Rajmohan Shetty: No I
don&rsquo;t think. Good work will always be
recognized, at whatever scale and at all levels it will always be a
marker, always be an index, however small the scale might be, of what
architecture is all about.</p>
  <p>Anil Dube: I don&rsquo;t
think the small practice is going to die.
It never will. There&rsquo;s ample work in all levels.</p>
  <p>Edgar Demello: I really do
see an emergence of practices that are
enquiring, that are in their small ways research based.</p>
  <p>Sathya Prakash Varanashi:
When I started my firm way back about twelve
years ago, not many people with thirty-forty sites, salaried, teachers
would come to us. But today they are coming to us. It is not linked
only to the fact that there is greater money in the market, it is
equally linked to the fact that architecture as a profession has become
more accessible.</p>
  <p>Nagaraj Vastarey: One major
change which I see today is the emphasis on
materialism. It&rsquo;s generally the glory of the material which
has overtaken and spatial architecture has taken a back seat.</p>
  <p>H.C. Thimmaiah: The invasion
of mirror architecture - that&rsquo;s
what is happening in Bangalore, and sometimes I really wonder whether
we need this mirror architecture at all and if we do should we go to
this extent. Then, the role of architects also is, I guess, limited. A
seller of these items can have various combinations in his computer and
present it to the clients, saying this is what you can do, well, then
what&rsquo;s the role of an architect here?</p>
  <p>Rajmohan Shetty: So its also
the process, and, I think, most firms just
keep talking about product, and about management and these tangible,
quantifiable aspects, and there&rsquo;s nothing, not a squeak on
the qualitative, the spatial, the aesthetic.</p>
  <p>Arunjot Singh Bhalla: People
are getting experiential. They are
beginning to realize that buildings are not just nice, pretty objects;
they are places of experience. There are spaces that need to be created
inside, you just don&rsquo;t keep replicating boxes.</p>
  <p>Soumitro Ghosh: Place does
play a fairly important role because there
is a growing danger of getting very picturesque where the experience of
a building becomes very flat. Now that works if you are just trying to
sell a space and get out of that as a seller, but as an architect, if
you are trying to exploit issues of experience of a space, then I think
the game is a little bigger then what it is otherwise.</p>
  <p>Nisha Mathew-Ghosh: I think
that somehow because of the media one has
access to there is a large amount of self- consciousness on the part
the architect, which leads to a lot of contrived work. But now, today
especially, there&rsquo;s so much of nice-looking work which is not
deep at all.</p>
  <p>Rajmohan Shetty: What they
have done is that they have cultivated an
audience of clients who think that is the way architecture should be
done - these pretty things that are pretty much picked up from all
sorts of sources and collaged together.</p>
  <p>Prem Chandavarkar: So that
eventually creates a direction where
architects are just designing for other architects. So I think what we
need to do as a profession is sit back and think - what value does
design provide and to remember that design is actually a propositional
activity, that each project has certain propositions about the way we
live.</p>
  <p>K. Jaisim: Contemporary
architecture is something that has to be
timeless, that has to have a continuity, will change, so that your
buildings look new even five, ten, twenty years from now. The material
may deteriorate, the spaces can&rsquo;t deteriorate.</p>
  <p>K.S. Ananthakrishna:
Specifically what I find is, today the most
important kind of buildings that are getting a lot of attention are the
ones built for the IT companies, and that to my mind is basically an
architecture of cladding.</p>
  <p>Arunjot Singh Bhalla: If I
look at Bangalore I feel a little more
optimistic. Now what&rsquo;s the reaction? The reaction is too much
glass, too much aluminum is happening. But if one tells oneself that
you are here not to force, your role is to be a moderator, your role is
to, as an architect, enable the client to make the right decisions. You
cannot neglect the fact that its the client&rsquo;s money, not
yours. You are the tailor but you didn&rsquo;t buy the cloth here.</p>
  <p>Nagaraj Vastarey: You lose
sense of direction, sense of time and space,
so whether its night outside or whether its day outside, you
won&rsquo;t just get to know. So what&rsquo;s the big deal? All
they require is just a shell.</p>
  <p>K. Jaisim: Its bright
sunlight outside and its closed, its
air-conditioned, and plus it has a million Watts glowing inside. Why?
Where did we get wrong??</p>
  <p>Prem Chandavarkar: A large
part of the profession has tended to look at
superficial, quick solutions, to look at aluminum composite panels, to
look at structural glazing, to look at those as quick fix solutions by
which one creates an international image. But if we do that we will
just wind up making Bangalore like another Singapore. So I think, we
need to get out of our obsession with technology, because technology
often provides these quick fix solutions</p>
  <p>Edgar Demello: Building
services have become rather sophisticated, and
they have become that because there is a very strong requirement from,
well I&rsquo;ll start by saying, multi-national agencies who bring
all their specs from Texas and Michigan and wherever else so you
can&rsquo;t really fool around with that and so there is a wrapping
paper around these building services.</p>
  <p>Akthar Nagaria: So many
times, I am sure you have gone through it too,
guys who have already built their house say, &ldquo;Sir can you
design our elevation, this is what we want.&rdquo;</p>
  <p>Edgar Demello: And I think
in the common mind, I think, architecture is
really still about front elevation.</p>
  <p>Anil Dube: Well
we&rsquo;ve always been known for aping the west,
and I think if you see today, Alucobond&reg; and structural glazing
has come to play a big role in the aesthetics of buildings,
irrespective of the fact that there&rsquo;s so much of sun, or
glare, or heat and the load on air-conditioning.</p>
  <p>Kavya Thimmaiah: Where you
make a little box, trap in all the heat and
then you increase your A/C load, and you try to maintain that ambient
temperature. Its ridiculous. You are creating a problem and then trying
to solve it.</p>
  <p>Edgar Demello: There are
people who I know who have taken architects to
court because of their inability to address very fundamental notions of
climate.</p>
  <p>Nagaraj Vastarey: Today you
have to profess an architecture of
inclusions.</p>
  <p>Manoj Ladhad: We have gone
beyond that stage where sharing of a
knowledge base is going to help you make better decisions.</p>
  <p>Ravindra Kumar: I think a
very collaborative approach amongst architect
is becoming highly important and I think, clients have to drive that
sometimes.</p>
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<h3>10. MANIFESTOS</h3>&nbsp;<br />
<blockquote>K. Jaisim: I always say the
three fundamentals [that] can lead
to
phenomenal architecture- one must have liberty, one must have freedom,
and one must have choice.
  <p></p>
  <p>Arunjot Singh Bhalla: Not in-your-face architecture.<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Good light.<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Simplicity. I still like Correa&rsquo;s Gandhi Ashram more than his
subsequent works.<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Funny as it may sound, lack of dramatism, break off from the
clich&eacute; of that &ldquo;WOW&rdquo; effect.<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Easy on the nerves,<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
and one more, less building more environment.</p>
  <p>Sathya Prakash Varanashi:
Design decisions are not linked with how do
we construct, it should be linked with how do we want to live.</p>
  <p>Ranjit Naik: Whatever you do
has to be relevant - to the context .</p>
  <p>Satish Naik: And that gives
the satisfaction</p>
  <p>Ranjit Naik: It should be
relevant to the client, it should be relevant
to the project, it should be relevant to [the] time also.</p>
  <p>Satish Naik: And it also
should be comfortable to the fabricator.</p>
  <p>Prem Chandavarkar:
Architecture is something that is inhabited day
after day, so we have to think about how design provides value over
time also. So I would like to use the&nbsp; term the aesthetics of
absorption. You tend to be obsessed with the aesthetic of expression,
the first impact, but we need to think of an aesthetics of absorption,
about how the space is inhabited, how memories are created when we
inhabit the space and therefore how value accrues over time.</p>
  <p>V. Narasimhan: So every
project we do, hopefully, will become now a
benchmark, worthy of study by other architects as a type study at
least, if not as a &ldquo; how is it done&rdquo;; What design
intervention have been made to increase the quality, comfort,
intangibles, serviceability, long time maintainability, lower energy
costs. It can set benchmark right?</p>
  <p>Anup Naik: Elements of
Sustainability. The electrical cycle is closed,
the water cycle is closed, the sewage cycle is closed; so once you are
actually harnessing all of this, I think, you can make affordable
buildings, high quality affordable buildings. I think
that&rsquo;s not a problem.</p>
  <p>Kiran Venkatesh: We have
been working for the last few years with this
notion of Section, a notion of an interiorized project in which the
body reacts to the volumetric quality of the space inside, so
there&rsquo;s very little of partitioning of spaces,
there&rsquo;s very little of interior volumes which are bifurcated,
its more a sort of internal connection. Its like a huge cave which has
these areas which are functionally demarcated either in section or by
some other device of level difference etc.</p>
  <p>Sanjay Mohe: We really
don&rsquo;t believe in a wrapper. We
actually believe in the contents. So, we start designing from the
inside-out rather than from outside-in. So, the moment you start
looking at it from inside out, probably the aesthetics of the overall
form is resultant of the inner needs.</p>
  <p>Nagaraj Vastarey: As an
architect I need to celebrate space
first. Space making becomes extremely important whether from within or
from outside.</p>
  <p>Soumitro Ghosh: I just went
and saw the Mill Owner&rsquo;
s building in Ahmedabad. After years it still blows you. There are some
buildings which move you immensely - I don&rsquo;t know whether we
are seeing it as architects as good design. There is a certain
experience which other buildings don&rsquo;t give you. Something
just is beyond comprehension which is happening - brilliant, and they
don&rsquo;t look as if they are some kind of traditional
architecture, they don&rsquo;t look that they are so much in the
future, but there is extreme groundedness in terms of the materials,
the feel, the light and everything.</p>
  <p>Nisha Mathew-Ghosh: ...And
there is something more.</p>
  <p>Rajmohan Shetty: and I still
believe in Corbusier&rsquo;s
observation that the plan is the generator of space because it allows
you to ponder and reflect what it is to occupy space and move through
it.</p>
  <p>Sanjay Mohe: As an
architect, you are looking at it as a
totality, you are not looking at a fa&ccedil;ade or you are not
looking at a functional thing. You don&rsquo;t jut stop at
resolving functional aspects. You try to look at how the light comes
in, how the air flows through, how do you harvest water, how do you
make use of earth, nature, how can the building breath by itself and
eventually it has to satisfy the aspirations of the client, it has to
look at technology, it has to respond to climate. So there are several
things which you look at from several different points of view at the
same time and try to create a happy place.</p>
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<ul>
  <li style="text-align: left;"><span
 style="font-weight: bold;">
Collaborators:</span><br />&nbsp;<br />
    <nobr>Anjali
Kondur Menon, My daughter | </nobr><nobr> K.S. Ananthakrishna, RV
School of Architecture | </nobr><nobr> Hareesh Asnani,
Space Matrix | </nobr><nobr> Arun Balan, The
Bodhi Tree | </nobr><nobr> Arunjot Singh Bhalla, RSP
Architects | </nobr><nobr> Prem Chandavarkar,
Chandavarkar &amp; Thacker | </nobr><nobr> Edgar
Demello, Edgar Demello Associates
| </nobr><nobr> Anil Dube, Anil Dube Architect | </nobr><nobr>
Tony Kunnel George, Atelier
d&rsquo;Arts &amp; Architecture | </nobr><nobr>
Nisha Mathew-Ghosh, Mathew
&amp; Ghosh Architects | </nobr><nobr> Soumitro Ghosh,
Mathew &amp; Ghosh
Architects | </nobr><nobr> K. Jaisim, Jaisim Fountainhead |
    </nobr><nobr> Ravindra Kumar, Pragrup |</nobr><nobr>
Manoj Ladhad, Architecture Paradigm | </nobr><nobr> Sanjay
Mohe, Mindspace | </nobr><nobr> Akthar
Nagaria, Pro-Design | </nobr><nobr> Anup Naik, In Antis | </nobr><nobr>
V Narasimhan, Venkataramanan
Associates | </nobr><nobr> Janardhan Reddy, Janardhan Reddy
&amp; Associates | </nobr><nobr> J.
Sandeep, Architecture Paradigm | </nobr><nobr> Rajmohan
Shetty, Rajmohan Shetty
Architects | </nobr><nobr> Kavya Thimmaiah, Thimmaiah
&amp; Prabhakar | </nobr><nobr> H.C.
Thimmaiah, Thimmaiah &amp; Prabhakar | </nobr><nobr>
Sathya Prakash Varanashi,
Sathya Consultants | </nobr><nobr> Nagaraj Vastarey, 
Pragrup Amoorthsiti | </nobr><nobr> P.K.
Venkataramanan, Venkataramanan Associates | </nobr><nobr>
Kiran Venkatesh, In Form
Architects | </nobr><nobr> Sudheendra Yalavigi, RV School
of Architecture | </nobr Students, RV School of Architecture:
Manu Gautham,</nobr><nobr> Bimal Hegde, 
</nobr><nobr> Sushir Kadidal, </nobr><nobr>
Ranjit Prasad,</nobr> ><nobr> Tharunya
Balan</nobr><br />&nbsp;<br /></li>
  <li>Abbreviations:</li><br />&nbsp;<br />
    <nobr><strong>BATF:</strong> Bangalore Agenda Task Force | </nobr><nobr>
    <strong>BMP:</strong> Bangalore Mahanagara Palike | </nobr><nobr>
    <strong>CBD:</strong> Central Business District | </nobr><nobr>
    <strong>CDP:</strong> Comprehensive Development Plan | </nobr><nobr>
    <strong>COA:</strong> Council of Architecture | </nobr><nobr>
    <strong>FAR:</strong> Floor Area Ratio | </nobr><nobr>
    <strong>FSI:</strong> Floor Space Index | </nobr><nobr>
    <strong>IIA:</strong> Indian Institute of Architects | </nobr><nobr>
    <strong>PAA:</strong> Practicing Architects Association | </nobr><nobr>
    <strong>(S):</strong> Student</nobr><br />&nbsp;<br />
    </li>
  <li>Transcribed by Meel Panchal &amp; Sucharita Hazra
  </li>
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   <title>Introduction to Whitewash!</title>
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   <summary>India, love it or hate it. Certainly it is impossible to be unaffected by it. My own relationship with the place is tainted by the contempt I feel for the people and incidents that unmake it everyday. Whitewash is merely a reflection of the skewed impressions that present-day personalities and events have made on my life. The deafening roar of the street, the family, the bureaucrat, the beggar, the MP, the builder, and the shopkeeper, are all condensed in the book as a virulent strain of muddled and diseased voices that pollute rivers, stage dharnas, rape college girls, adulterate food items, smuggle liquor or contaminate daily life in other ways. Whitewash is not a distillation, but a further confounding, a piece of visual and literary noise: 240 pages of a personal harangue of articles, advertising and misinformation - a sort of Yellow Pages of the social and political life of today. It is not a serious piece of writing, a literary work, but a personal catalogue of graphic, visual and verbal slime. Its truest representation is the view inside and outside the window - to the street, the city, the village, the family drawing room, the marketplace,  and other containers of ordinary life. Prejudiced, dull, trivial, devious, despairing, crass, deceitful, blunt, arrogant, malicious, downright stupid, could all describe life in India. I hope they also describe the book.</summary>
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